Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to named?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 15.04.20 um 09:42 schrieb Klaus Darilion:
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: bind-users <bind-users-bounces at lists.isc.org> Im Auftrag von Reindl
>> Harald
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 09:17
>> An: bind-users at lists.isc.org
>> Betreff: Re: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to
>> named?
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 15.04.20 um 09:09 schrieb Klaus Darilion:
>>>>> It would be great if you undo this change before release of 18.04
>>>>
>>>> you confuse the upstream project with your distribution
>>>>
>>>> bind9 was completly wrong in the debian world as well as apache2 for
>>>> httpd, on sane distributions it's "httpt" and "named" all the years
>>>> beause it's nonsense to throw vesions in service names
>>>
>>> I do not complain about the version number, but of the name.
>>>
>>> And in my opinion it is not sane to call a service/package httpd if the name
>> of the software is Apache
>>
>> seriously?
>>
>> https://www.apache.org/
>>
>> https://downloads.apache.org/httpd/
>> https://downloads.apache.org/tomcat/
>> https://downloads.apache.org/trafficserver/
>>
>> and what do you do after httpd-3.0 is out?
>>
>> you won't have httpd2 and httpd3 on the same system from your
>> distribution
> 
> Why not? With postgresql it is very common. You have postgresql-X and a meta package pointing to the newest version. That's propapbly not what "every distribution" does, but how a good distribution like Debian and Ubuntu does it.

not over a long time outsuide the LTS world because nobody will maintain
it (besides that it's not the main point of my last message) and how
does that fix your wrong assumption "in my opinion it is not sane to
call a service/package httpd if the name of the software is Apache"

we are using httpd on backends and trafficserver as reverse proxy - who
of both apache projects is listening when i scream "apache" to my servers?

> It is very very sane to have the version number in the package, and a package without version number pointing to the newest version. Eg. this is how the Linux kernel is handled in Debian/Ubuntu

well, than complain at your distribution

given that your mails are landing in the nic.at folder (we are a
registrar) and i know that nic.at normally has a very good technical
expertise i guess you are new there

may i ask you talk to your seniors how and where to complain about
distribution level changes and besides you are at the wrong list it's
nothing easier than make your owen overrides and aliases with
systemd-dropins so that you can call "systemctl
relaod/restart/start/stop" with whatever name you like no matter how the
distribution is calling the service

that's far quicker implemented and deployed even before you deploy the
update itself as it took to write your initial mail