bind-users Digest, Vol 1917, Issue 1

Bazy V bzahy8 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 21 05:17:55 UTC 2014


My confusion arises from these 2 sections in replies from
bind-users Digest, Vol 1916, Issue 2# 4 reply states it "should be"

# 4 ----------------->

>Note that either 0.220/24 wasn't technically correct, it should be:

>220/24  NS      ns2.sub.test.com.
>0.220   CNAME   0.220/24

>but that's an overkill as Phil correctly pointed out.

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# 3 ----------------------->

>The "220/24" isn't treated as a netmask for automatic expansion. It is
>used exactly. The only thing that generates records is the $GENERATE
>directive, but even it doesn't understand "220/24" as something for
> expansion.

 >               Mukund
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Coming to the main issue at hand, even pointing  a /27 boundary from the
Linux server running BIND with the generate statements to pick up PTR from
the sub Windows Name server did not work.

>From the command line ( via dig and nslookup against the MS server) I can
lookup ip's which fall under the /27 boundary fine. So it could not be a
access or no response problem.

I have been using Bind for close to 10 years now. It documented well, lot
of resources on the web and this is the first time, I am using the mailing
list. Since what is suggested / found is not working out. I clearly
understand where the .220.20.17 PTR records need to be, and .20.17 need to
have the other NS. Stop preaching to the choir.

Since so many postings and doc's say this is the method. So it should have
worked for people and it is not working out in our scenario. I plan to
stand up another linux server and test it out. May be there is something
very specific to our setup and there might a problem with bind
doing/passing  lookups against the MS DNS.

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>From: /dev/rob0 <rob0 at gmx.co.uk>
>Right.  I wonder where the OP got that idea?

Not out of the blue, see above

Since someone owns a domain called test, are people prohibited from using
the phrase ' create a test domain' in their daily lives !!

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> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:03:20 +0200
> From: Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uhlar at fantomas.sk>
> To: bind-users at lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: DNS reverse sub delegation NXDOMAIN problem, Class C
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> On 19.08.14 11:54, Bazy V wrote:
> >One post said 220/24 is not the correct format,
> >Another post said that is the format.
>
> no post said this.
>
> > Not sure which one is correct.
>
> 220.20.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA is the correct zone into which to put PTR records.
>
> >Setting 220            NS            ns2.sub.test.com.
>
> this belongs to the 20.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain on your recursive nameserver
> - the one your resolv.conf points to.
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:47:29 -0500
> From: "Adamiec, Lawrence" <ladamiec at kentlaw.iit.edu>
> To: bind-users at lists.isc.org
> Subject: no servers found
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> HI,
>
> I am running BIND 9.6-ESV-R5-P1 on a Solaris 10 server.  I can run queries
> without specifying a name server on my Solaris servers successfully.  When
> I try to run a query on a Solaris 10 virtual server, I get "connection
> timed out; no servers could be reached" error.
>
> If I add the name servers from our main campus (or 8.8.8.8) to the virtual
> server's resolv.conf file, then dig will use the other name server and skip
> my name server to resolve the query which is successful.
>
> If i use dig and specify my master name server, then the query works fine.
>
> I do not understand why the virtual server cannot find the name servers on
> my campus (my building) unless I specify it.
>
>
> Host file contents of virtual server
> #
> # Internet host table
> #
> ::1             localhost
> 127.0.0.1       localhost
> 64.131.119.61   dnstest.kentlaw.edu dnstest loghost
> 64.131.119.11   nsa.kentlaw.edu nsa
> 64.131.119.12   nsb.kentlaw.edu nsb
>
>
> resolv.conf contents of virtual server
>
> domain kentlaw.edu
> nameserver 66.131.119.11
> nameserver 66.131.119.12
> nameserver 216.47.128.11
> nameserver 216.47.128.12
> nameserver 8.8.8.8
> search kentlaw.edu
>
>
> Larry
>
> Lawrence Adamiec
> UNIX Mgr/Web Support Specialist
> Illinois Institute of Technology-DTC
> 565  W. Adams St.
> Chicago, IL
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> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:54:57 -0700
> From: Charles Swiger <cswiger at mac.com>
> To: "Adamiec, Lawrence" <ladamiec at kentlaw.iit.edu>
> Cc: bind-users at lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: no servers found
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> Hi--
>
> On Aug 19, 2014, at 1:47 PM, "Adamiec, Lawrence" <ladamiec at kentlaw.iit.edu>
> wrote:
> > I am running BIND 9.6-ESV-R5-P1 on a Solaris 10 server.  I can run
> queries without specifying a name server on my Solaris servers
> successfully.  When I try to run a query on a Solaris 10 virtual server, I
> get "connection timed out; no servers could be reached" error.
> >
> > If I add the name servers from our main campus (or 8.8.8.8) to the
> virtual server's resolv.conf file, then dig will use the other name server
> and skip my name server to resolve the query which is successful.
>
> It's fairly normal for virtualization stuff to forbid network access from
> a VM to the host, via some combination of network interface configuration
> and NAT/firewall rules.
>
> If you're using VirtualBox, look into "bridged adaptor", ie:
>
>   https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html#network_bridged
>
> Regards,
> --
> -Chuck
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> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:07:50 -0500
> From: "Adamiec, Lawrence" <ladamiec at kentlaw.iit.edu>
> To: Charles Swiger <cswiger at mac.com>
> Cc: bind-users at lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: no servers found
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> I should have said it was a Solaris 10 zone (container).  I am not using
> VirtualBox, VMware, or other third party software.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Charles Swiger <cswiger at mac.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi--
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2014, at 1:47 PM, "Adamiec, Lawrence" <
> ladamiec at kentlaw.iit.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I am running BIND 9.6-ESV-R5-P1 on a Solaris 10 server.  I can run
> queries
> > without specifying a name server on my Solaris servers successfully.
> When
> > I try to run a query on a Solaris 10 virtual server, I get "connection
> > timed out; no servers could be reached" error.
> >
> > If I add the name servers from our main campus (or 8.8.8.8) to the
> virtual
> > server's resolv.conf file, then dig will use the other name server and
> skip
> > my name server to resolve the query which is successful.
> >
> >
> > It's fairly normal for virtualization stuff to forbid network access from
> > a VM to the host, via some combination of network interface configuration
> > and NAT/firewall rules.
> >
> > If you're using VirtualBox, look into "bridged adaptor", ie:
> >
> >   https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html#network_bridged
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > -Chuck
> >
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> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:21:44 -0500
> From: /dev/rob0 <rob0 at gmx.co.uk>
> To: bind-users at lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: DNS reverse sub delegation NXDOMAIN problem, Class C
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> Sorry, this is going to be a pedantic post, so I might as well start
> here:
>
> > Subject: Re: DNS reverse sub delegation NXDOMAIN problem, Class C
>
> No, there's no such thing as "Class C", so please forget that.  It's
> a /24 network.  CIDR is in; class is dismissed.
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 07:03:20PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > On 19.08.14 11:54, Bazy V wrote:
> > >One post said 220/24 is not the correct format,
> > >Another post said that is the format.
> >
> > no post said this.
>
> Right.  I wonder where the OP got that idea?
>
> > >Not sure which one is correct.
> >
> > 220.20.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA is the correct zone into which to put PTR
> > records.
> >
> > >Setting 220            NS            ns2.sub.test.com.
>
> Test.com is a real Internet domain.  Please don't use that if you
> aren't the actual owner.
>
> > this belongs to the 20.172.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain
>
> Yes, to repeat, and enhanced for RFC 2606 compliance:
>
> 220             NS      ns2.sub.example.com.
>
> > on your recursive nameserver
> > - the one your resolv.conf points to.
>
> Well no, not necessarily.  This is authoritative service we are
> discussing here.
>
> That said, sure, typically you're going to host such internal-only
> zones on a server that also does recursion.  That's not required,
> however.  The recursive server could have stub or static-stub zones,
> or even an alternate root zone, which points to the authoritative
> server.
>
> Pedantry complete.
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