Message for Bind-users

Johnny Fribert Lauridsen jlaurids at cisco.com
Wed Jun 14 18:22:39 UTC 2000


Barry,
I am not sure you are getting it.
In this country (Denmark), companies and people _want_ to use national characters.
Like in Denmark - The O-slash, the A-overcircle and others, and these characters are
as usual in this country as the  'W' character is in the US.  E.g. The 'Wild West just Wouldnt be the same Without it'.  So the underscore is just a start, what companies around here wants is to use their real names and
national characters if in the real name, instead of doing OE for O-slash and AA for A-overcircle, etc.
This is just one simple example.  Gee, the underscore should even be in the CP437 7bit Code set so that is
an even bigger mis-hap.
I fought this battle with IBM programmers in the early 80ties, and it was a tough one because they were
all American and pretty satisfied with their 7 bit code sets.  Fortunately, they/IBM hired people with some
insight into I18N, and came up with appls and operating systems that could handle it.  Still, many rfcs are out-dated.
/Johnny

At 17:59 14/06/2000 +0000, Barry Margolin wrote:
>In article <3947C354.67A8043E at daimlerchrysler.com>,
>Kevin Darcy  <kcd at daimlerchrysler.com> wrote:
> >I'm not suggesting that people violate the standards. I'm suggesting that
> >certain standards, or parts of standards, are obsolete and arbitrary and
> >unnecessarily restrictive, and that we should a) just simply admit this
> >instead of making up bullshit justifications for them and b) change them
> >if we can.
>
>But updating the standard is only half the battle, and it's the easy half.
>You also have to find and fix any software that's dependent on the old
>restrictions.
>
>Admittedly, there probably isn't lots of software that really depends on
>the underscore restriction.  That's the reason why so many sites have
>gotten away with violating the rule.  But there are some programs that do
>enforce it (e.g. the Gauntlet firewall I mentioned in another post), and
>they're going to continue to bite us.  Why go to this effort for something
>so trivial as underscores?
>
>In another post, someone said that the reason for wanting underscores is
>increased naming flexibility.  We already have hyphens, so the main
>flexibility this will provide is to have foo-bar.com and foo_bar.com that
>are distinct.  Is that really such a good thing?  I envision that it's more
>likely to result in trademark battles between the owners of the two
>domains.
>
>-- 
>Barry Margolin, barmar at genuity.net
>Genuity, Burlington, MA
>*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
>Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group.

Johnny Fribert Lauridsen
Cisco Systems Danmark A/S
Copenhagen Europe Center
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DK-1620 Copenhagen
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E-mail: fribert at cisco.com




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