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[Stephen John Smoogen]

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Stephen John Smoogen <smooge at gmail.com>
To: dhcp-users at isc.org
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:14:28 -0600
Subject: Re: dhcpd performance?
On 5/2/07, Jiann-Ming Su <sujiannming at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/2/07, Simon Hobson <dhcp1 at thehobsons.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Do I detect a hint of internal politics going on here ? Are the phone
> > guys pushing to use a different DHCP server by any chance ?
> >
>
> They're not asking for another dhcp server.  it's just a problem
> endemic to our organization as a whole.  Groups will deploy
> applications without fully understanding how those applications work.
> When the application gets misconfigured, "It's the network's fault!!
> Let's wait two weeks for those lowly network admins to verify the
> network isn't the problem, then we'll call the vendors."  But, I'm
> sure everybody's heard this broken record before.
>

I am listening to it right now with a place wanting to deploy 10k
phones.. and no one has thought about a full reset yet.

> The problem with VoIP is the "dumb users" know how a phone should
> work.   They won't be as forgiving with phones as they are with
> computers.  And, if the folks in charge of voice don't really know how
> this voice application works on top of the data network, debugging it
> will be that much more difficult.
>

We need to start a DHCP-VOIP drinking game...

take a slug every time you have to debug a 'DHCP problem' when the
phone is still set to use a static IP address...

take a slug when the phone is plugged into a switch/router that doesnt
have DHCP helper set up correctly...

take a slug when a phone is plugged into a LAN with a nearer DHCP
server that keeps giving the phone a public IP address..



--
Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"




-- 
Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"