Problems with interfaces going down
Mark Andrews
marka at isc.org
Mon Feb 15 04:54:06 UTC 2021
Linux already uses capabilities so it doesn’t have this issue.
FreeBSD there are sysctl settings to allow specific non-root users to bind to specify addresses.
> On 15 Feb 2021, at 15:26, Paul Kosinski via bind-users <bind-users at lists.isc.org> wrote:
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> Would it be possible to use a virtual interface from within bind/named that gets mapped by some privileged facility to a hardware interface? (This is the sort of thing that VMs have to do all the time.) For example, could a brctl bridge help?
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> Or maybe CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE would allow the interface to be reactivated (if it's a privileged port issue).
>
> Just brainstorming.
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> Paul
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 18:33:21 -0500
> bindusers at prograde.net wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I’ve been fighting a two-fold problem with named (bind 9.16.11) running on macOS.
>>
>> 1: If an ethernet interface being listened to drops link, named immediately stops listening to it:
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>> 12-Feb-2021 17:33:19.326 no longer listening on 192.168.88.220#53
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>> and
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>> 2: when link returns I get 2 tries to reestablish listening:
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>> 12-Feb-2021 17:33:39.458 listening on IPv4 interface en1, 192.168.88.220#53
>> 12-Feb-2021 17:33:39.463 creating IPv4 interface en1 failed; interface ignored
>> 12-Feb-2021 17:33:41.946 listening on IPv4 interface en1, 192.168.88.220#53
>> 12-Feb-2021 17:33:41.951 creating IPv4 interface en1 failed; interface ignored
>>
>> which both fail because named is no longer running as root.
>>
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>> Where I’m confused is that this ISC KB article:
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>> https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-00420
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>> seems to imply that the "no longer listening" event is due to a periodic interface scan finding the interface "unavailable".
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>> That doesn’t fit my observations since it happens as soon as link is lost. If some minutes-long periodic scan were needed to detect the interface being down it would take, on average, half of that period to happen. It does not.
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>> Further, I tried what the KB article advised by adding the option:
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>> interface-interval 0;
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>> That does seem to stop the periodic scan (since my log is no longer filled with errors) but the “no longer listening” event still occurs right when the interface drops.
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>> Is it not possible to have named drop to a non-root user (via -u) but still recover from (or ride through) a momentary ethernet link loss?
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>> Having the server stop working due to a switch I have no control over burping is very suboptimal.
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>> Thanks for any ideas.
>>
>>
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