[KASP] Key rollover

adrien sipasseuth sipasseuth.adrien at gmail.com
Tue Jan 24 14:18:22 UTC 2023


Hello,

I don't why  DSState: hidden, it's ok with some online check tools like :
- https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/
- https://zonemaster.net/fr/run-test

my master is hidden, it can be related ? How i can debug this DSState:
hidden ?

I found this command to check actual status : rndc dnssec -status **********
This is the output :
....
key: 46358 (ECDSAP256SHA256), KSK
  published:      yes - since Tue Jan 17 17:55:03 2023
  key signing:    yes - since Tue Jan 17 17:55:03 2023

  Next rollover scheduled on Tue Jan 24 17:55:03 2023
  - goal:           omnipresent
  - dnskey:         omnipresent
  - ds:             hidden
  - key rrsig:      omnipresent
...

Regards Adrien

Le mar. 24 janv. 2023 à 09:27, Matthijs Mekking <matthijs at isc.org> a écrit :

> Hi Adrien,
>
> I don't think it is fine yet. I see in your state file the following line:
>
>  > DSState: hidden
>
> This means the DS is not published according to BIND.
>
>  > From my understanding, the second KSK should appear because I put the
>  > parameter "publish-safety 3d;" that is to say 3 days before the
>  > expiration ("retired") of the key in use. is that right?
>
> In addition to the DNSKEY TTL yes. The successor KSK should be
> pre-published the sum of dnskey-ttl, publish-safety, and
> zone-propagation-delay, prior to its retirement.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matthijs
>
> On 1/24/23 09:08, adrien sipasseuth wrote:
> > Hello Matthijs,
> >
> > Indeed I had not published the DS at my registar because I thought that
> > the second KSK would have appeared anyway at the time of the rollover.
> >
> > I published the DS yesterday and I reported to BIND with the command you
> > gave me. I didn't find any error in the logs so everything must have
> > been fine!
> >
> > here is the state file of the KSK in use :
> > ; This is the state of key 46358, for ***********************.
> > Algorithm: 13
> > Length: 256
> > Lifetime: 604800
> > Predecessor: 28887
> > KSK: yes
> > ZSK: no
> > Generated: 20230117165503 (Tue Jan 17 17:55:03 2023)
> > Published: 20230117165503 (Tue Jan 17 17:55:03 2023)
> > Active: 20230120180003 (Fri Jan 20 19:00:03 2023)
> > Retired: 20230127180003 (Fri Jan 27 19:00:03 2023)
> > Removed: 20230131190003 (Tue Jan 31 20:00:03 2023)
> > DSPublish: 20230123081513 (Mon Jan 23 09:15:13 2023)
> > PublishCDS: 20230120180003 (Fri Jan 20 19:00:03 2023)
> > DNSKEYChange: 20230120180003 (Fri Jan 20 19:00:03 2023)
> > KRRSIGChange: 20230120180003 (Fri Jan 20 19:00:03 2023)
> > DSChange: 20230117165503 (Tue Jan 17 17:55:03 2023)
> > DNSKEYState: omnipresent
> > KRRSIGState: omnipresent
> > DSState: hidden
> > GoalState: omnipresent
> >
> >  From my understanding, the second KSK should appear because I put the
> > parameter "publish-safety 3d;" that is to say 3 days before the
> > expiration ("retired") of the key in use. is that right?
> >
> > that is to say tonight at 7pm, I will see tomorrow if this one appears.
> >
> > regards, Adrien
> >
> >
> >
> > Le jeu. 19 janv. 2023 à 09:13, Matthijs Mekking <matthijs at isc.org
> > <mailto:matthijs at isc.org>> a écrit :
> >
> >     Hi Adrien,
> >
> >     Without any logs or key **state** files, I can't really tell what is
> >     going on.
> >
> >     My only gut feeling is that you have never signaled BIND 9 that the
> DS
> >     has been published. You can run 'rndc dnssec -checkds -key 12345
> >     published example.com <http://example.com>' or set up
> >     parental-agents to do it for you.
> >
> >     Best regards,
> >
> >     Matthijs
> >
> >     On 1/17/23 09:38, adrien sipasseuth wrote:
> >      > Hello,
> >      >
> >      > I put the management of DNSSEC with KASP, the zone is well
> >     functional.
> >      > (dig with "AD" flag etc)
> >      >
> >      > On the other hand, I can't see when the key rollover period for
> >     my KSK
> >      > is over (2 KSKs with a dig DNSKEY...)
> >      >
> >      > Without KASP, it was easy because I generated the second KSK key
> but
> >      > with KASP, it is managed automatically.
> >      >
> >      > So, I have to adapt my scripts to check that there is :
> >      >   - a used KSK key and a next KSK key
> >      >   - Or only one KSK key used (if we are not in rollover phase)
> >      >
> >      > Except that with my current policy, I never see 2 KSKs via a "dig
> >      > DNSKEY...".
> >      > here is my policy :
> >      >
> >      > dnssec-policy "test" {
> >      >      keys {
> >      >          ksk lifetime P7D algorithm ecdsa256;
> >      >          zsk lifetime P3D algorithm ecdsa256;
> >      >      };
> >      >      purge-keys 1d;
> >      >      publish-safety 3d;
> >      >      retire-safety 3d;
> >      > };
> >      >
> >      > I see either my KSK in use or my next KSK (via "dig DNSKEY...")
> but
> >      > never both at the same time.
> >      >
> >      > Is this a normal behavior or am I doing it wrong?
> >      >
> >      > Regards, Adrien
> >      >
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