queries for just a few domains fail (NXDOMAIN) for a bind 9.18 non-forwarding config ; forwarding does fix it. problem with 'my' config, or 'their' DNS ?

Mark Andrews marka at isc.org
Tue Oct 25 23:47:57 UTC 2022


AWS are returning NXDOMAIN instead of NOERROR for empty non terminals. Do you have strict
qname minimisation turned on?


;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 1690
;; flags: qr aa ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;us-east-1.aws.dckr.io.		IN	DS

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
aws.dckr.io.		900	IN	SOA	ns-1870.awsdns-41.co.uk. awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com. 1 7200 900 1209600 86400

;; Query time: 254 msec
;; SERVER: 2600:9000:5301:8d00::1#53(ns-397.awsdns-49.com) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 26 10:35:57 AEDT 2022
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 137

> On 26 Oct 2022, at 10:23, PGNet Dev <pgnet.dev at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> i run bind 9.18.8
> 
> i use root hints; forwarding is, by default, disabled in config
> 
> with this config, i notice that although lookups for (e.g.) *.dock.io are available in public NS caches, e.g.
> 
> 	dig A elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io @1.1.1.1
> 
> 		; <<>> DiG 9.18.8 <<>> A elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io @1.1.1.1
> 		;; global options: +cmd
> 		;; Got answer:
> 		;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 43732
> 		;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> 
> 		;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> 		; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
> 		;; QUESTION SECTION:
> 		;elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io. IN  A
> 
> 		;; ANSWER SECTION:
> 		elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io. 11 IN CNAME  prodextdefgreen-vggjfqmkkc-41e4710ed557329b.elb.us-east-1.amazonaws.com.
> 		prodextdefgreen-vggjfqmkkc-41e4710ed557329b.elb.us-east-1.amazonaws.com. 11 IN A 52.3.144.121
> 		prodextdefgreen-vggjfqmkkc-41e4710ed557329b.elb.us-east-1.amazonaws.com. 11 IN A 54.165.156.197
> 		prodextdefgreen-vggjfqmkkc-41e4710ed557329b.elb.us-east-1.amazonaws.com. 11 IN A 44.196.175.70
> 
> 		;; Query time: 12 msec
> 		;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1) (UDP)
> 		;; WHEN: Tue Oct 25 18:59:05 EDT 2022
> 		;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 195
> 
> if I query at my local NS, i get NXDOMAIN response,
> 
> 	dig A elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io @10.53.53.53
> 
> 		; <<>> DiG 9.18.8 <<>> A elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io @10.53.53.53
> 		;; global options: +cmd
> 		;; Got answer:
> 		;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 23192
> 		;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> 
> 		;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> 		; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
> 		; COOKIE: a1d6686d7992af170100000063586abe7c0a67d1ca4adf27 (good)
> 		;; QUESTION SECTION:
> 		;elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io. IN  A
> 
> 		;; Query time: 10 msec
> 		;; SERVER: 10.53.53.53#53(10.53.53.53) (UDP)
> 		;; WHEN: Tue Oct 25 19:01:18 EDT 2022
> 		;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 90
> 
> 
> easy to workaround; if i simply forward for that zone,
> 
> 	zone "dckr.io" IN {
> 		type forward; forward only; forwarders {1.1.1.1;2606:4700:4700::1111;1.0.0.1;2606:4700:4700::1001;};
> 	};
> 
> & reload, then, local query works fine
> 
> 	dig A elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io @10.53.53.53
> 
> 		; <<>> DiG 9.18.8 <<>> A elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io @10.53.53.53
> 		;; global options: +cmd
> 		;; Got answer:
> 		;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29726
> 		;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> 
> 		;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> 		; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
> 		; COOKIE: 7616190797188ad90100000063586afb58e880c12f1fb8ec (good)
> 		;; QUESTION SECTION:
> 		;elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io. IN  A
> 
> 		;; ANSWER SECTION:
> 		elb-default.us-east-1.aws.dckr.io. 60 IN CNAME  prodextdefgreen-vggjfqmkkc-41e4710ed557329b.elb.us-east-1.amazonaws.com.
> 		prodextdefgreen-vggjfqmkkc-41e4710ed557329b.elb.us-east-1.amazonaws.com. 60 IN A 44.196.175.70
> 		prodextdefgreen-vggjfqmkkc-41e4710ed557329b.elb.us-east-1.amazonaws.com. 60 IN A 52.3.144.121
> 		prodextdefgreen-vggjfqmkkc-41e4710ed557329b.elb.us-east-1.amazonaws.com. 60 IN A 54.165.156.197
> 
> 		;; Query time: 175 msec
> 		;; SERVER: 10.53.53.53#53(10.53.53.53) (UDP)
> 		;; WHEN: Tue Oct 25 19:02:19 EDT 2022
> 		;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 223
> 
> the vast majority of queries to my local server are answered correctly.
> 
> but, for three domains (so far ...) -- dock.io, netflix.com & moz.works -- i'm having to implement these per-zone forwarding workarounds.
> 
> is there an issue here that i can fix/cure in my not-forwarding-by-default config, so that these (and others out there too, i suppose ...) queries respond correctly ?
> if it's pebkac, dunno where to look, yet.
> 
> or is it actually a problem on for these domains' DNS, and not much i can do about it ... other than workaround, or just default to forwarders ?
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