KSK signing zone records

Mark Andrews marka at isc.org
Tue Aug 31 23:07:20 UTC 2021


Named will continually re-sign parts of the zone as the RRSIGs for a RRset fall due
for replacement.  Named looks at which keys are in the active state to determine along
with the afore mentioned controls to work out which DNSKEYs will be used to re-sign the
RRset.  If in the past you only had one key type and you now have two, different keys
may be used to re-sign the RRset.  If you changed policy in named.conf, the new policy
will be implemented as the RRSIGs are re-generated.

It looks like you told named to re-sign the zone when there was only one type of DNSKEY
key record (or you where unlucky enough for named to check the available keys whiles there
was only one active key present) resulting in named overriding the policy in named.conf.

Mark

> On 1 Sep 2021, at 03:44, Timothy A. Holtzen via bind-users <bind-users at lists.isc.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm using Algorithm 8 RSA/SHA-256, and Algorithm 14 ECDSA/SHA-384.  I
> have one RSA KSK and one RSA ZSK.  In addition I have two ECDSA KSK and
> two ECDSA ZSK.   The RSA KSK seems perfectly happy to sign the ECDSA
> ZSKs.  And both the RSA and ECDSA ZSKs seem to be singing records
> correctly.  It just seems to be the two newer ECDSA KSKs that instead of
> signing the ZSKs are singing the domain records directly. 
> 
> Even more perplexing is that one of the domains seems to have fixed
> itself.  Now all the KSKs for that domain are singing the ZSKs and the
> ZSKs are signing the domain records.  But I've still got a couple of
> other domains where it is doing it wrong.  Is there some kind of timeout
> or maintenance that gets run automatically that might have fixed the
> issue?  I've tried running an "rndc sign" command on the domains several
> times.
> 
> Timothy A. Holtzen
> Campus Network Administrator
> Nebraska Wesleyan University
> Public PGP ECC Curve 25519 Key: 11A2 3FDB AD70 12CA D77D  C7DD DFFB 7662 24E6 C30D
> Old Public PGP RSA key: CFB4 3AE8 B726 DEBF 00D9  CCFC 426E 76AF DABC B3D7
> 
> On 8/30/21 17:40, raf via bind-users wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:13:05AM -0700, Chris Buxton <clists at buxtonfamily.us> wrote:
>> 
>>> What algorithm(s) are you using for ZSK and KSK? If they’re not the
>>> same algorithm, then both will be used to sign the entire zone.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Chris Buxton
>> Just out of curiosity, why is that?
>> Isn't having the KSK sign the ZSK enough?
>> What difference does the nature of the thing
>> being signed make?
>> 
>> cheers,
>> raf
>> 
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