Zoneformat

[Ondřej Surý]

Neither analogy would work to the detail here.  But search domains is the butt dial of DNS…

You are better if you don’t use it as it works well until it doesn’t and you send your data to the wrong party.

Ondrej

> On 28 Oct 2019, at 17:01, Paul Kosinski via bind-users <bind-users at lists.isc.org> wrote:
> 
> "... long ago adapted to using full numbers, including area codes, for
> pretty much *all* phone dialing ..."
> 
> Except that that proved to be so onerous that people often use "speed
> dialing" for commonly dialed numbers. (Not to mention the fact that
> people usually address their friends and coworkers by short names.)
> 
> 
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 12:19:35 -0400
> Kevin Darcy <kevin.darcy at fcagroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> [ Classification Level: PUBLIC ]
>> 
>> My opinion? It's better to wean your users away from shortnames than
>> to try to cobble together kludges, on the client side or the BIND
>> side, to support a bad habit. Shortnames introduce ambiguity, lead to
>> nasty surprises, are inefficient and insecure. Just like we (in the
>> U.S. at least) long ago adapted to using full numbers, including area
>> codes, for pretty much *all* phone dialing, people can adapt to using
>> FQDNs. They've already adapted to it, overwhelmingly, for Internet
>> web traffic (notwithstanding some "helpful" browsers that will tack
>> on "www" to the front of a shortname, and ".com" at the end, which is
>> often *not* what is wanted or safe). Why have a different user
>> experience, when on or off the enterprise network, a perimeter that
>> is quickly eroding? Just use FQDNs everywhere, keep it consistent.
>> 
>> Anyway, that's my 2-cents, from someone who has been battling the
>> "shortname disease" for decades, with a substantial amount of
>> (although not perfect) success.
>> 
>> 
>>      - Kevin
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:56 AM MEjaz <mejaz at cyberia.net.sa> wrote:
>> 
>>> Noxexistent domain error .
>>> 
>>> Here is my configuration.
>>> =======================
>>> 
>>> zone "crm365app" {
>>> type master;
>>> file "crm365app.cyberia.net.sa.hosts";
>>> allow-query {any;};
>>> };
>>> 
>>> 
>>> File
>>> 
>>> ========================================
>>> [root at ns1 ~]# cat  /var/named/crm365app.cyberia.net.sa.hosts
>>> $TTL 3600
>>> ;       Addresses and other host information
>>> ;
>>> ;
>>> 
>>> @       IN      SOA     ns1.cyberia.net.sa. root.cyberia.net.sa. (
>>> 2015034459 ; serial
>>>                        43200   ; refresh every 12 hours
>>>                        4320    ; retry after 1 hour
>>>                        1209600  ; expire after 2 weeks
>>>                        21600 )  ; minimum
>>> 
>>> ; Define the name servers and mail servers
>>> 
>>>        IN      NS      ns1.cyberia.net.sa.
>>>        IN      NS      ns2.cyberia.net.sa.
>>> 
>>>        IN      MX      10 smtp.cyberia.net.sa.
>>> 
>>> ; Define localhost
>>> *        IN    A       127.0.0.1
>>> 
>>> ; Define hosts in this zone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> www     IN      CNAME   webhost.cyberia.net.sa.
>>> crm365app       IN      A       212.71.33.252
>>> 
>>> =========================================zone file
>>> end=============================
>>> 
>>> [root at ns1 named]# host crm365app
>>> Host crm365app not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>>> [root at ns1 named]# named-checkzone crm365app
>>> crm365app.cyberia.net.sa.hosts
>>> zone crm365app/IN: loaded serial 2015034459
>>> OK
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-bounces at lists.isc.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Reindl Harald
>>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 1:46 PM
>>> To: bind-users at lists.isc.org
>>> Subject: Re: Zoneformat
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 28.10.19 um 11:01 schrieb MEjaz:
>>>> *From:* MEjaz [mailto:mejaz at cyberia.net.sa]
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 10:27 AM
>>>> *To:* 'bind-users-bounces at lists.isc.org'
>>>> <bind-users-bounces at lists.isc.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Zoneformat
>>>> 
>>>> Is ther any way I can create the zone without the (.) I mean non
>>>> fully qualified domain name just as "example" instead
>>>> "example.com"'
>>> 
>>> 
>>> what is the problem you try to solve?
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