different answers from google's authoritative servers

Sotiris Tsimbonis stsimb at forthnet.gr
Wed Jun 1 13:10:24 UTC 2016


On 1/6/16 15:50, Nico CARTRON wrote:
> Hi Sotiris,
> 
> On 1 June 2016 at 14:47:31, Sotiris Tsimbonis (stsimb at forthnet.gr
> <mailto:stsimb at forthnet.gr>) wrote:
> 
>> On 1/6/16 15:30, Kevin Kretz wrote: 
>> > There's also no reason to assume that the different responses have 
>> > anything to do with the client network. They could, of course (with 
>> > views), but that you get different responses from the same/similar IP 
>> > is, again, not anything wrong. 
>> > 
>>
>> True, so below is probably the visualisation of load balancing ... which 
>> most of the times gives me "the wrong logical answer". 
>>
>> [root at syz3ns03 ~]# while true ; do sleep 0.1 ; echo "$(date) $(dig 
>> +short A www.google.com. @ns3.google.com.)" ; done 
>> ... 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:31 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:32 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:32 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:32 EEST 2016 216.58.208.100 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:32 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:32 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:32 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:33 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:33 EEST 2016 216.58.208.100 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:33 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:33 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:33 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:33 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:34 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:34 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:34 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:34 EEST 2016 216.58.208.100 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:34 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:34 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> Wed Jun 1 15:42:35 EEST 2016 172.217.16.36 
>> ... 
>>
>> So what I'm really trying to find out is if there's anything from my 
>> side to influence the load balancer's decision.. 
> 
> 
> Why would you want to influence the LB decision?
> Is there any difference between the different IP addresses you have as
> answers?
> 
> You mentioned SSL errors in the browser, could you give more details?
> I don’t think you should have to fix that on your side, but rather find
> out what is happening.

Because when google resolves to 172.217.16.*, browsers report an HSTS
violation and SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER if firefox or
NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID in chrome.

When google resolves to 216.58.208.* they work as intented (no error).

Sot.


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