Logging

WBrown at e1b.org WBrown at e1b.org
Tue Jan 8 13:56:16 UTC 2013


Timothe Litt <litt at acm.org> wrote on 01/08/2013 08:19:56 AM:

> What I think would be more useful is if named actually reported the 
> issues to where they'd do some good.  Perhaps a DNS extension "I got an 
> invalid message from you" - so it shows up in the log of the server (and 

> administrator) with the problem.  (I'd worry about denial of service, 
> though if the server is in fact lame, it's not providing service - at 
> least to that zone .  Abuse of the reporting mechanism is the main risk, 

> and avoiding it would take some careful engineering.)

My sense of most lame servers is they served entities that had disappeared 
from the face of the earth, taking most of their online presence with 
them.  The only thing left was their domain registration and the NS 
records in the parent domain, probably due to multi-year registrations 
that had not yet expired.  Or they could have been spam related domains 
that were no longer being used.

Reporting such domains would simply be noise. 

If there is truly is a domain having technical difficulties with name 
resolution, I suspect that they would find out about it soon enough 
because no one would be able to connect to them:

-  No email
-  outgoing email might be rejected depending on receiver's 
      filtering policies
-  No web presence
-  Failure of other systems relying on DNS

Wouldn't dig +trace reveal the lame server with the BAD REFERRAL error?

>From lame.log:

08-Jan-2013 08:52:37.747 lame server resolving 
'mail.desktoptrainingacademy.com' (in 'desktoptrainingacademy.com'?): 
208.89.21.65#53


And "dig +trace desktoptrainingacademy.com" returns 

; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2.1 <<>> +trace desktoptrainingacademy.com
;; global options:  printcmd
.                       452564  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
.                       452564  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
;; Received 508 bytes from 168.169.12.2#53(168.169.12.2) in 0 ms

com.                    172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.
;; Received 504 bytes from 202.12.27.33#53(m.root-servers.net) in 188 ms

desktoptrainingacademy.com. 172800 IN   NS      ns2.evolveip.net.
desktoptrainingacademy.com. 172800 IN   NS      ns1.pbp.com.
;; Received 128 bytes from 192.12.94.30#53(e.gtld-servers.net) in 94 ms

desktoptrainingacademy.com. 3600 IN     A       216.4.210.253
;; Received 60 bytes from 208.89.23.71#53(ns1.pbp.com) in 12 ms

root at ns5:/etc/bind# dig +trace mail.desktoptrainingacademy.com

; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2.1 <<>> +trace mail.desktoptrainingacademy.com
;; global options:  printcmd
.                       452533  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
.                       452533  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
;; Received 508 bytes from 168.169.12.2#53(168.169.12.2) in 0 ms

com.                    172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.
;; Received 512 bytes from 199.7.83.42#53(l.root-servers.net) in 134 ms

desktoptrainingacademy.com. 172800 IN   NS      ns2.evolveip.net.
desktoptrainingacademy.com. 172800 IN   NS      ns1.pbp.com.
;; Received 133 bytes from 192.35.51.30#53(f.gtld-servers.net) in 77 ms

.                       3600000 IN      NS      K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       3600000 IN      NS      H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
;; BAD REFERRAL
;; Received 260 bytes from 208.89.21.65#53(ns2.evolveip.net) in 13 ms




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