[ga] Re: Resolving .gov w/dnssec

[Joe Baptista]

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Fair trade is necessary trade. Unnecessary tradeoffs are lame.
>

I agree. It is a tradeoff and not fair trade.


> These problems are not necessary -- except that they are within the given
> framework of lack of motivation to do better.  It comes down to this, if we
> set our standards outside of competitive models there is no incentive to do
> better.  ICANN, the Dnssec and this SAIC are working within government
> sanctioned slobbery, both intellectual and economic slobbery.  I used to
> think it was snobbery, now I know it is a laziness born of shovel leaning
> bureaucrats. You may be kind and call it "make work" but would you call
> intentional fraud "make work"? Buggy whips and Railroad fireman is what this
> is.
>

Again I agree. DNSSEC is a snow job by committee.  SAIC is a joke.  "I" root
server in Beijing is still down. Where is SAIC on that.


>
> The plan I am putting together for the inculsives will generate some new
> fire under the pants of these obstructionists and they will find that a
> better mousetrap can be built.
>

Thank you - I and my TLD holders thank you.

regards
joe baptista



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> --- On *Thu, 4/22/10, Joe Baptista <baptista at publicroot.org>* wrote:
>
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> From: Joe Baptista <baptista at publicroot.org>
> Subject: [ga] Re: Resolving .gov w/dnssec
> To: cet1 at cam.ac.uk, "ga at gnso.icann.org >> GA" <ga at gnso.icann.org>
> Cc: "Paul Wouters" <paul at xelerance.com>, "Bind Users Mailing List" <
> bind-users at lists.isc.org>, "Timothe Litt" <litt at acm.org>
> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:07 AM
>
> Looks like the future of the DNSSEC make work project includes resolution
> failures here and there. More security - less stability - guaranteed
> slavery. I wounder if it's a fair trade.
>
> we'll see ..
> regards
> joe baptista
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Chris Thompson <cet1 at cam.ac.uk<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cet1@cam.ac.uk>
> > wrote:
>
>> On Apr 22 2010, Paul Wouters wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Timothe Litt wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm having trouble resolving uspto.gov with bind 9.6.1-P3 and 9.6-ESV
>>>> configured as valdidating resolvers.
>>>>
>>>> Using dig, I get a connection timeout error after a long (~10 sec)
>>>> delay.
>>>> +cdflag provides an immediate response.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is anyone else seeing this?  Ideas on how to troubleshoot?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have the same problems with our validating unbound instance.
>>>
>>
>> I suspect that this has to do with
>>
>>  dig +dnssec +norec dnskey uspto.gov @dns1.uspto.gov.
>>  dig +dnssec +norec dnskey uspto.gov @sns2.uspto.gov.
>>
>> failing with timeouts, while   dig +dnssec +norec +vc dnskey uspto.gov @
>> dns1.uspto.gov.
>>  dig +dnssec +norec +vc dnskey uspto.gov @dns2.uspto.gov.
>>
>> work fine ... with a 1736-byte answer. Probably the fragmented
>> UDP response is getting lost somewhere near the authoritative
>> servers themselves.
>>
>> --
>> Chris Thompson
>> Email: cet1 at cam.ac.uk<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cet1@cam.ac.uk>
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