Reverse DNS Dig returning PTR results only with trace option

Raj Adhikari raj at cyzap.com
Tue Nov 10 22:04:21 UTC 2009


Yes, they both are non-BIND servers, actually using Windows DNS servers.
I have delegated *each*in-addr*arpa*name* from cyzap to
monetreeysystems. But haven't tried again each separate zone on
moneytreesystems.
I tried RFC 2317 also. But again sometimes it just stuck at CNAME and
sometimes no answer when queried for the PTR record. I read several
problems with this approach.

Kevin Darcy wrote:
> It's worse than that. Sometimes RD doesn't even get copied into the
> response header.
>
> I suspect there's a load-balancer in front here, and at least one
> "bad", non-BIND nameserver behind it, spewing out nasty stuff like
> "horizontal" delegations...
>
> Either that, or some middlebox is munging the queries/responses.
>
> To clarify what needs to be done to fully implement this approach to
> "classless delegation": *each*in-addr*arpa*name* needs to be delegated
> separately, and *each*one* needs to be defined as a *separate* zone on
> the moneytreesystems.com nameservers. Put each respective PTR record
> at the apex of each of those zones.
>
> That's a pain, isn't it? Maybe now you understand why most people uses
> aliases a la RFC 2317. It's often the lesser of two evils.
>
> - Kevin
>
> Chris Hills wrote:
>> On 10/11/09 18:25, Raj Adhikari wrote:
>>> Now I can do a dig for an hour or so. But again I run into same
>>> problem.
>>> It wont return PTR record unless I explicitly do dig on ns1.cyzap.net.
>>> Also, the last did showing ns1.cyzap.net as Authority NS for this IP.
>>> But trace showing ns1.moneytreesystems.com as final sender.
>>>
>>> Could someone shed a light on this?
>>
>> 254.63.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS NS3.MCLEODUSA.NET.
>> 254.63.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS NS1.MCLEODUSA.NET.
>> 254.63.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS NS2.MCLEODUSA.NET.
>> ;; Received 112 bytes from 192.42.93.32#53(y.arin.net) in 173 ms
>>
>> 228.134.254.63.in-addr.arpa. 7200 IN NS ns1.cyzap.net.
>> 228.134.254.63.in-addr.arpa. 7200 IN NS ns2.cyzap.net.
>> ;; Received 90 bytes from 209.253.113.19#53(NS3.MCLEODUSA.NET) in 159 ms
>>
>> 228.134.254.63.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN NS ns2.moneytreesystems.com.
>> 228.134.254.63.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN NS ns1.moneytreesystems.com.
>> ;; BAD (HORIZONTAL) REFERRAL
>> ;; Received 160 bytes from 64.253.181.53#53(ns2.cyzap.net) in 167 ms
>>
>> You should not chain a delegation in this manner. Either make the
>> servers ns1.cyzap.net. and ns2.cyzap.net. authoritative for
>> 228.134.254.63.in-addr.arpa. or have your ISP change the NS records
>> to point directly to ns1.moneytreesystems.com. and
>> ns2.moneytreesystems.com. The cyzap servers do not respond with the
>> authority bit set ("aa" in dig).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chris
>>
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