Zone transfer failing
Chris Buxton
cbuxton at menandmice.com
Wed Jun 24 18:00:22 UTC 2009
On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:54 AM, Scott Haneda wrote:
> On Jun 23, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Chris Buxton wrote:
>> On Jun 23, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Scott Haneda wrote:
>>> Good observation. This is a long standing issue that I assumed
>>> was solved. Named on OS X will go deaf on port 53 tcp for some
>>> reason. I just kicked it, and now I can tcp dig it.
>>>
>>> $dig +tcp sugardimplesdesigns.com SOA @ns1.hostwizard.com +short
>>> ns1.hostwizard.com. scott.hostwizard.com. 2009062206 28800 7200
>>> 2419200 3600
>>>
>>> I now the men and mice guys are familiar with this, if you guys
>>> are reading, have you ever pinned this down, or found a solution
>>> to it?
>>
>> No, we have not. However, it appears to be related to the port
>> being idle for some time. Servers that use their TCP port more
>> frequently, usually due to having lots of zone updates that need to
>> be replicated to slaves, don't appear to be affected. You might try
>> creating a cron job that digs against the TCP port every 5 minutes
>> to try to keep the port "active" and prevent it from gong deaf.
>>
>> I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that we've seen this on
>> other operating systems as well, although the lion's share of
>> reports have been with Mac OS X.
>
>
> In your estimation, a named/BIND bug, or OS level bug? How would
> one go about finding out, and working it out, so we can solve this?
> I can certainly and very easily shove a launchd job in to run every
> 5 minutes, and do not even consider it much of a kludge, but would
> like to solve it for others, as it is a bear to track down.
I'm not really qualified to determine where the bug is, but I would
guess there's a bug in the IP stack that most other server software
doesn't trigger. Perhaps ISC could find a way to work around it, or
perhaps Apple could fix it.
My WAG is that Apple inherited this bug from *BSD, from which large
portions of the Darwin kernel are (or at least were) derived.
Chris Buxton
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