override ttl=0

[Herve Guehl]

Sorry.. Was cleaning my mouse... and the button pushed itself...;)
So... What are my choices :

1 - Run  my own patch ? -> not an option
2 -  Try to make the rest of the world change it's behaviour setting hurting
ttl ? -> not an option
3 - Create my sf.net account with my buggy patch and claim i'm king of the
world ?

Beeing root is 'having the choice'... I understand all considerations about
RFC (btw is 0 a positive integer ? ;) ) but please give us the choice and
include a min-cache-ttl. At the end, guys playing with this option (setting
blindly min-cache-ttl to any high value) will only hurt themself...

regards

On Jan 16, 2008 3:32 PM, Herve Guehl <herve.guehl at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
> I'm back...So what are my choice ?
>
> 1 - run my own patch ? ->  not a
>
>
> On Jan 7, 2008 2:10 AM, Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews at isc.org > wrote:
>
> >
> > > On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 04.01.08 15:52, Herve Guehl wrote:
> > > >> My users choosed an external service, based on the fact that is fit
> > their
> > > >> needs.
> > > >
> > > > and you have problem with it. Either accept it as it is, or ask the
> > custome
> > > r
> > > > to fix the problem where it lies... I don't think you'll solve
> > anything by
> > > > breaking the RFC...
> > >
> > > I think its very reasonable to enforce a minimum of at least 1 hour
> > > many large networks do this, because we all know how many other
> > > incompetant people there are out there in control of their own DNS
> > >
> > > > Maybe you and them should rethink what does "their needs" mean and
> > what wil
> > > l
> > > > happen if it will continue causing the problem. Maybe if you
> > converted "you
> > > r
> > >
> > > It's barely noticable if a locally hosted domain has a laughable TTL
> > like
> > > 10m, but image if you host 30K domains, and every one of these idiots
> > set
> > > their TTL to 10 mins, think of the un-necessary bandwith and workload
> > > those servers have to do when its not called for,  IIRC it wont accept
> > > anything less than 10 minutes anyway, but in a day when no one runs
> > > servers on dynamically assigned IP servers, I think the built in
> > default
> > > should be 1 hour at the very least.
> >
> >        Well people do run things on dynamic address these days.
> >        The TTL of those addresses is usually derived from the DHCP
> >        lease parameters.  If you have a 1 hour DHCP lease then the
> >        DNS TTL should be about 15 minutes.  That allows for 1
> >        missed DHCP renew.
> >
> >        People do you run ttl's down when they are about to switch
> >        servers.
> >
> >        Yes, the DNS does suffer from the tragedy of commons.  That's
> >        why education is important.  Everyone should be doing the
> >        right thing and when you see someone doing the wrong thing
> >        you inform them.  You don't just let them continue as it
> >        just makes things worse regardless of what "fixes" you might
> >        attempt.
> >
> >        Mark
> >
> > > --
> > > Cheers
> > > Res
> > >
> > > mysql> update auth set Framed-IP-Address='127.0.0.127' where user=
> > 'troll';
> > >
> > >
> > --
> > Mark Andrews, ISC
> > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
> > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews at isc.org
> >
> >
> >
>