DNS queries to blocked countries?

Jeff Lightner jlightner at water.com
Thu Jun 21 16:33:49 UTC 2007


The countries themselves are being blocked by network security.   As I
said that is a political football others are trying to move.

My questions is basically trying to see if there is a way I could setup
something similar to hints used for root servers so that something else
would do the lookup.   It doesn't seem likely to me but figured I might
not be the first person to run across this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vinny Abello [mailto:vinny at tellurian.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:29 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: bind-users at isc.org
Subject: Re: DNS queries to blocked countries?

How are you blocking them? Why not just allow DNS query responses from
anywhere? Would that fix it?

Jeff Lightner wrote:
> OK I know this sounds like a stupid question but figured I'd ask
anyway.
> We currently have customers who have signed up to get email from us.
> However, the MX record won't resolve because the primary DNS for the
> customers is in a country we block inbound/outbound.    Essentially
the
> dig +trace and whois both stop at the point the root servers hand off
to
> servers in those remote countries.
> 
> An example would be "Samsung.com".   Although the user is actually in
> the U.S., Samsung is a South Korean company.  Due to this we can't get
> the MX record which may or may not point to a U.S. server.   I'm
> wondering if there is any way I can setup things so the resolution for
> countries we block is reported back by some other server that would be
> U.S. based that doesn't block these countries?
> 
> dig +trace -t MX samsung.com
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> +trace -t MX samsung.com
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> .                       169576  IN      NS      K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> .                       169576  IN      NS      J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
> ;; Received 244 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 25 ms
> 
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                    172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.
> ;; Received 489 bytes from 193.0.14.129#53(K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 119
ms
> 
> samsung.com.            172800  IN      NS      dnssm.samsung.com.
> samsung.com.            172800  IN      NS      dnsss.samsung.com.
> ;; Received 101 bytes from 192.5.6.30#53(a.gtld-servers.net) in 22 ms
> 
> dig: Couldn't find server 'dnssm.samsung.com': Name or service not
known
> 
> P.S.  Don't tell me to unblock the countries - that's a political
> football being tussled over at a different level.   
> 
> 
> 
> 

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