Zone Template

[Bill Larson]

On Oct 7, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Sten Carlsen wrote:

> Doesn't work on 9.21, I just get "hostmaster."  in an soa query  
> from dig.
>
> I know 9.21 is ancient (the whole system is waiting to be replaced)  
> but
> has this changed since then? If so, about when.

This functioned back in BIND-8.  Actually, it worked in BIND-4 but  
those were the good old days.

If you are using the same zone file that you showed previously, what  
was your origin with the SOA record?  If your origin were simply ".",  
then you get exactly what you said.  You would end up with just  
"hostmaster.".  Any unqualified name, any name that does not end with  
a period, is fully qualified by adding the value of the origin to them.

If you use relative names, the names are relative to the origin.  If  
your origin is ".", you basically have defeated the ability to use  
relative names.  If your origin were "domain_hosted.com", then any  
name would be fully qualified with "domain_hosted.com".

For example, if your origin were "domain_hosted.com" and your SOA  
record simply specified "hostmaster" as the RNAME (email address),  
then this RNAME would be fully qualified as  
"hostmaster.domain_hosted.com".

Now, my rant, why do people think that they must specify the origin  
at the beginning of their zone files?  There is no need for this as  
Barry demonstrated.

Bill Larson

> Barry Margolin wrote:
>> In article <eg8mqf$1rcu$1 at sf1.isc.org>,
>>  Sten Carlsen <ccc2716 at vip.cybercity.dk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You would still have to change the mail address in the SOA. That  
>>> is much
>>> easier of course; I assume that @ can not be used there?
>>>
>>
>> But a relative name can.  If it's always root@<domain> or
>> hostmaster@<domain>, you can just put "root" or "hostmaster" there.
>>
>>
>>> Barry Margolin wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <eg763f$2mfn$1 at sf1.isc.org>,
>>>>  "Josh Hyles" <josh.maillists at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am running a windows BIND server and am trying to figure out  
>>>>> what
>>>>> the best template would be for creating new sites. I currently  
>>>>> use the
>>>>> following...
>>>>>
>>>>> $ORIGIN .
>>>>> $TTL 86400	; 1 day
>>>>> domain_hosted.com		IN SOA	NS1.domain.com.  
>>>>> root.domain_hosted.com. (
>>>>> 				2006053001 ; serial
>>>>> 				3600       ; refresh (1 hour)
>>>>> 				7200       ; retry (2 hours)
>>>>> 				604800     ; expire (1 week)
>>>>> 				43200      ; minimum (12 hours)
>>>>> 				)
>>>>> 			NS	NS1.domain.com.
>>>>> 			NS	NS2.domain.com.
>>>>> 			A	63.247.73.122
>>>>> 			MX	5 mail.domain_hosted.com.
>>>>> $ORIGIN domain_hosted.com.
>>>>> ftp			A	123.456.789.012
>>>>> mail			A	123.456.789.012
>>>>> www			A	123.456.789.012
>>>>>
>>>>> All of the "domain_hosted" entries must be changed to the new  
>>>>> domain
>>>>> that I am hosting... is there any better to do this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I'd leave out all the $ORIGIN statements, and use relative names  
>>>> (or @)
>>>> for the zone name.  Then you don't have to change anything for  
>>>> the new
>>>> domain -- the origin defaults to the name from the 'zone'  
>>>> statement in
>>>> named.conf.
>>>>
>>>> $TTL 86400      ; 1 day
>>>> @               IN SOA  NS1.domain.com. root.domain_hosted.com. (
>>>>                                 2006053001 ; serial
>>>>                                 3600       ; refresh (1 hour)
>>>>                                 7200       ; retry (2 hours)
>>>>                                 604800     ; expire (1 week)
>>>>                                 43200      ; minimum (12 hours)
>>>>                                 )
>>>>                         NS      NS1.domain.com.
>>>>                         NS      NS2.domain.com.
>>>>                         A       63.247.73.122
>>>>                         MX      5 mail
>>>> ftp                     A       123.456.789.012
>>>> mail                    A       123.456.789.012
>>>> www                     A       123.456.789.012
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Best regards
>
> Sten Carlsen
>
> No improvements come from shouting:
>
>        "MALE BOVINE MANURE!!!"
>
>