Sometimes users get host unknown

Peter Dambier peter at peter-dambier.de
Tue Jun 13 13:30:34 UTC 2006


Looking at www.londonknowledge.ac.uk

it does not find londonknowledge.ac.uk either:

; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any londonknowledge.ac.uk @lomi
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 27850
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;londonknowledge.ac.uk.         IN      ANY

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ac.uk.                  600     IN      SOA     ns0.ja.net. jips-nosc.nosc.ja.net. 2006061260 28800 7200 3600000 14400

;; Query time: 122 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.48.227#53(lomi)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 13 15:11:07 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 100


This one looks good to start with:

; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any ac.uk @lomi
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22184
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 11, AUTHORITY: 8, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ac.uk.                         IN      ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      MX      2 kryten.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      MX      1 rimmer.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      SOA     ns0.ja.net. jips-nosc.nosc.ja.net. 2006061260 28800 7200 3600000 14400
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns4.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns3.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns1.cs.ucl.ac.uk.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      sunic.sunet.se.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns.uu.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns0.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ws-fra1.win-ip.dfn.de.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns2.ja.net.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      sunic.sunet.se.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ws-fra1.win-ip.dfn.de.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns.uu.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns1.cs.ucl.ac.uk.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns4.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns2.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns3.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns0.ja.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns2.ja.net.             114842  IN      A       193.63.105.17
ns3.ja.net.             114842  IN      A       193.63.106.103
ns4.ja.net.             114842  IN      A       193.62.157.66
ws-fra1.win-ip.dfn.de.  3605    IN      A       193.174.75.178

;; Query time: 248 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.48.227#53(lomi)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 13 15:14:34 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 482


Information seems the same on all servers:

soa("ac.uk","2006061260","sunic.sunet.se.","192.36.125.2").
soa("ac.uk","2006061260","ws-fra1.win-ip.dfn.de.","193.174.75.178").
soa("ac.uk","2006061260","ns.uu.net.","137.39.1.3").
soa("ac.uk","2006061260","ns4.ja.net.","193.62.157.66").
soa("ac.uk","2006061260","ns2.ja.net.","193.63.105.17").
soa("ac.uk","2006061260","ns3.ja.net.","193.63.106.103").
soa("ac.uk","2006061260","ns0.ja.net.","128.86.1.20").
soa("ac.uk","2006061260","ns0.ja.net.","193.63.94.20").


Let us try

; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any ac.uk @ns0.ja.net
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61722
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 11, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 9

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ac.uk.                         IN      ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      SOA     ns0.ja.net. jips-nosc.nosc.ja.net. 2006061260 28800 7200 3600000 14400
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      sunic.sunet.se.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ws-fra1.win-ip.dfn.de.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns.uu.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns0.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns1.cs.ucl.ac.uk.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns2.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns3.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      NS      ns4.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      MX      2 kryten.ja.net.
ac.uk.                  86400   IN      MX      1 rimmer.ja.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns0.ja.net.             86400   IN      A       193.63.94.20
ns0.ja.net.             86400   IN      A       128.86.1.20
ns0.ja.net.             86400   IN      AAAA    2001:630:0:9::14
ns0.ja.net.             86400   IN      AAAA    2001:630:0:8::14
ns1.cs.ucl.ac.uk.       360000  IN      A       128.16.5.32
ns2.ja.net.             86400   IN      A       193.63.105.17
ns2.ja.net.             86400   IN      AAAA    2001:630:0:45::11
ns3.ja.net.             86400   IN      A       193.63.106.103
ns3.ja.net.             86400   IN      AAAA    2001:630:0:46::67

;; Query time: 86 msec
;; SERVER: 128.86.1.20#53(ns0.ja.net)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 13 15:25:16 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 498


How about?

; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any www.londonknowledge.ac.uk @ns0.ja.net
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 20363
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.londonknowledge.ac.uk.     IN      ANY

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ac.uk.                  14400   IN      SOA     ns0.ja.net. jips-nosc.nosc.ja.net. 2006061260 28800 7200 3600000 14400

;; Query time: 79 msec
;; SERVER: 128.86.1.20#53(ns0.ja.net)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 13 15:27:19 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 104

That is the bad guy

; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any londonknowledge.ac.uk @ns0.ja.net
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 56892
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;londonknowledge.ac.uk.         IN      ANY

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ac.uk.                  14400   IN      SOA     ns0.ja.net. jips-nosc.nosc.ja.net. 2006061260 28800 7200 3600000 14400

;; Query time: 80 msec
;; SERVER: 128.86.1.20#53(ns0.ja.net)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 13 15:28:33 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 100


Hope that helps you

Kind regards
Peter and Karin Dambier



Peter Dambier wrote:
> Andrew Watkins wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>We have had an ongoing problem that some people (over the world) that 
>>they can not access our web server, since they do not get an IP address.
>>
>>I have tested from my home ISP (away from work) and am unable to get the 
>>same errors. I have tested the DNS from a few web sites www.dnsstuff.com 
>>, etc and can not pin point any major problem
>>
>>Our webserver has many addresses
>>www.lkl.ac.uk
>>www.lonklab.ac.uk
>>www.londonknowledge.ac.uk
>>
>>
>>The last report we had from a user was: dig +trace +qr www.lkl.ac.uk
>>
>>; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> +trace +qr www.lkl.ac.uk
>>;; global options:  printcmd
>>.                       47891   IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
>>.                       47891   IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
>>;; Received 356 bytes from 165.225.198.2#53(165.225.198.2) in 5 ms
>>
>>uk.                     172800  IN      NS      NS1.NIC.uk.
>>uk.                     172800  IN      NS      NSD.NIC.uk.
>>;; Received 493 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(c.root-servers.net) in 48 ms
>>
>>ac.uk.                  172800  IN      NS      ns1.cs.ucl.ac.uk.
>>ac.uk.                  172800  IN      NS      ns2.ja.net.
>>ac.uk.                  172800  IN      NS      ns3.ja.net.
>>ac.uk.                  172800  IN      NS      ns4.ja.net.
>>ac.uk.                  172800  IN      NS      sunic.sunet.se.
>>ac.uk.                  172800  IN      NS      ws-fra1.win-ip.dfn.de.
>>ac.uk.                  172800  IN      NS      ns.uu.net.
>>ac.uk.                  172800  IN      NS      ns0.ja.net.
>>;; Received 233 bytes from 195.66.240.130#53(NS1.NIC.uk) in 129 ms
>>
>>lkl.ac.uk.              86400   IN      NS      ns1.lonklab.ac.uk.
>>lkl.ac.uk.              86400   IN      NS      mail1.ccs.bbk.ac.uk.
>>;; Received 101 bytes from 128.16.5.32#53(ns1.cs.ucl.ac.uk) in 150 ms
>>
>>dig: Couldn't find server 'ns1.lonklab.ac.uk': Name or service not known
>>
>>
>>Any pointers?
>>
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>>Andrew Watkins
>>*****************************************************************************
>>Unix Administrator                           tel: 020-7631 6720
>>Computer Science Department                  fax: 020-7631 6727
>>Birkbeck College (University of London)
>>Malet Street
>>London                                       e-mail: andrew at dcs.bbk.ac.uk
>>WC1E 7HX 
>>http://www.dcs.bbk.ac.uk/~andrew
>>*****************************************************************************
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Asking a djbdns resolver I get:
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any www.lkl.ac.uk @echnaton
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 21133
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.lkl.ac.uk.                 IN      ANY
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.lkl.ac.uk.          86400   IN      CNAME   thor.dcs.bbk.ac.uk.
> thor.dcs.bbk.ac.uk.     86400   IN      A       193.61.29.33
> 
> ;; Query time: 1663 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.208.228#53(echnaton)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Jun 13 14:01:53 2006
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 74
> 
> 1 2/3 seconds to answer is not very fast.
> 
> 
> Asking a Bind 9.4.0 I get:
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any www.lkl.ac.uk @lomi
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 44818
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.lkl.ac.uk.                 IN      ANY
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.lkl.ac.uk.          85585   IN      CNAME   thor.dcs.bbk.ac.uk.
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> lkl.ac.uk.              85585   IN      NS      ns1.lonklab.ac.uk.
> lkl.ac.uk.              85585   IN      NS      mail1.ccs.bbk.ac.uk.
> 
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns1.lonklab.ac.uk.      85994   IN      A       193.61.29.32
> 
> ;; Query time: 28 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.48.227#53(lomi)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Jun 13 14:07:24 2006
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 124
> 
> 
> but a CNAME is not an ip-address. I have to ask again:
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any thor.dcs.bbk.ac.uk @lomi
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 38786
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 4
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;thor.dcs.bbk.ac.uk.            IN      ANY
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> thor.dcs.bbk.ac.uk.     85421   IN      A       193.61.29.33
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> bbk.ac.uk.              359021  IN      NS      bas-a.bcc.ac.uk.
> bbk.ac.uk.              359021  IN      NS      link-1.ts.bcc.ac.uk.
> bbk.ac.uk.              359021  IN      NS      ns0.ja.net.
> 
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns0.ja.net.             118707  IN      A       193.63.94.20
> ns0.ja.net.             118707  IN      A       128.86.1.20
> ns0.ja.net.             118707  IN      AAAA    2001:630:0:9::14
> ns0.ja.net.             118707  IN      AAAA    2001:630:0:8::14
> 
> ;; Query time: 48 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.48.227#53(lomi)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Jun 13 14:10:09 2006
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 212
> 
> 
> Maybe some resolvers dont follow the CNAME. That may depend on
> what information is currently stored in their cache.
> 
> 
> Next test
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any www.londonknowledge.ac.uk @echnaton
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 43951
> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.londonknowledge.ac.uk.     IN      ANY
> 
> ;; Query time: 137 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.208.228#53(echnaton)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Jun 13 14:35:26 2006
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 43
> 
> 
> After only 137 djbdns returns without an ip-address without a nameserver
> 
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any www.londonknowledge.ac.uk @lomi
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 17733
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.londonknowledge.ac.uk.     IN      ANY
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> ac.uk.                  600     IN      SOA     ns0.ja.net. jips-nosc.nosc.ja.net. 2006061260 28800 7200 3600000 14400
> 
> ;; Query time: 209 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.48.227#53(lomi)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Jun 13 14:38:04 2006
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 104
> 
> 
> Bind 9.4.0 has found the authority but not an answer.
> 


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