I can't gethost but other can.....

[David Botham]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bind-users-bounce at isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounce at isc.org] On
> Behalf Of Dermot Paikkos
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:57 AM
> To: comp-protocols-dns-bind at isc.org; David Botham
> Subject: RE: I can't gethost but other can.....
> 
> David,
> How come others get on the site and not us? It makes sense that my
> lookup are timed out if I need a response from an authority but can't
> my name server just accept the records from a non-authoritive
> source?

No, your name server can't get the information from a non-authoritative
source. 

> 
> I get 2 NS, neither of which respond. They are either down or named
> isn't running. When I checked yesterday I red the records wouldn't
> expire for 5 weeks...it could be a while before they bring up the NS
> again.

Yes, you are getting those 2 entries from the parent.  However, ask the
authoritative name servers and you get only 1 name server.  Classic case
of the child being mis-configured:

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> ns cshl.org @PHAGE.cshl.org +norec
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
;; flags: qr aa ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cshl.org.                      IN      NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
cshl.org.               10800   IN      NS      phage.cshl.org.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
phage.cshl.org.         10800   IN      A       143.48.1.1

;; Query time: 701 msec
;; SERVER: 143.48.1.1#53(PHAGE.cshl.org)
;; WHEN: Tue Feb 18 12:40:39 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 62


C:\Documents and Settings\dbotham>dig ns cshl.org @ADNA.cshl.org +norec

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> ns cshl.org @ADNA.cshl.org +norec
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
;; flags: qr aa ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cshl.org.                      IN      NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
cshl.org.               10800   IN      NS      phage.cshl.org.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
phage.cshl.org.         10800   IN      A       143.48.1.1

;; Query time: 670 msec
;; SERVER: 143.48.1.20#53(ADNA.cshl.org)
;; WHEN: Tue Feb 18 12:40:53 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 62

> 
> Dp.
> root (/usr3/scanning) 3 -> dig @192.5.6.36 www.cshl.org
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @192.5.6.36 www.cshl.org
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> ;; got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
> ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL:
> 2
> ;; QUERY SECTION:
> ;;      www.cshl.org, type = A, class = IN
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> cshl.org.               2D IN NS        ADNA.cshl.org.
> cshl.org.               2D IN NS        PHAGE.cshl.org.
> 
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ADNA.cshl.org.          2D IN A         143.48.1.20
> PHAGE.cshl.org.         2D IN A         143.48.1.1
> 
> On 18 Feb 2003 at 11:42, David Botham wrote:
> 
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am having trouble with a couple of domains (forgive me I did
write
> > > in earlier). No-one at my site can access www.cshl.org or
> > > aims.org.au. I have to go a7.nstld.com (top-level .org
root-server)
> > > to get any records for the host but users at other sites can get
the
> > > site straight up.
> > >
> > > The NS of this zone seems to be down but the web-server is up.
> > > However my name-server is not resolving the names properly.
> >
> > This zone has *only one* name server:
> >
> > ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> www.cshl.org
> > ;; global options:  printcmd
> > ;; Got answer:
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
> > ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 1,
ADDITIONAL:
> > 1
> >
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;www.cshl.org.                  IN      A
> >
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > www.cshl.org.           10800   IN      CNAME   skpro.cshl.org.
> > skpro.cshl.org.         10800   IN      CNAME   tuxpro.cshl.org.
> > tuxpro.cshl.org.        10800   IN      A       143.48.220.12
> >
> > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> > cshl.org.               10800   IN      NS      phage.cshl.org.
> >
> > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> > phage.cshl.org.         10800   IN      A       143.48.1.1
> >
> > ;; Query time: 570 msec
> > ;; SERVER: 216.248.176.20#53(216.248.176.20)
> > ;; WHEN: Tue Feb 18 11:40:33 2003
> > ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 131
> >
> >
> >
> > If that name server is down, then, I would expect there to be a real
> > problem resolving names in that zone (that is, it would not be
> > possible).
> >
> > Dave...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Can anyone help?
> > >
> > > Thanx.
> > > Dp.
> > >
> > >
> > > ~~
> > > Dermot Paikkos * dermot at sciencephoto.com
> > > Network Administrator @ Science Photo Library
> > > Phone: 0207 432 1100 * Fax: 0207 286 8668
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> ~~
> Dermot Paikkos * dermot at sciencephoto.com
> Network Administrator @ Science Photo Library
> Phone: 0207 432 1100 * Fax: 0207 286 8668