Can lookup ezmlm.org but not www.ezmlm.org ???

Kevin Darcy kcd at daimlerchrysler.com
Fri Feb 15 00:43:08 UTC 2002


It would appear that the cheetahmail.com folks are doing something which
violates the RFCs, i.e. creating a CNAME called "ezmlm.org", where that
name owns records of other types (e.g. SOA and NS records). Apparently
they use a lax nameserver which allows this travesty to be propagated.

Your nameserver rightfully responds with an error when it detects this
bogosity.


- Kevin

autom8on wrote:

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> Hi all,
>
> There's obviously something screwy with my DNS setup - though I'm not
> sure exactly what it is, or how to fix it.
>
> The problem surfaced when I came to try and install the ezmlm package
> - - I tried going from my network to www.ezmlm.org - but just kept
> getting DNS failure errors.
>
> So, I tried doing some DNS lookups - and sure enough, although I
> could see ezmlm.org from my local machine, I couldn't see
> www.ezmlm.org.  So, just in case, I ssh'd to another shell account I
> have, and tried from there - it worked fine.
>
> The output from dig to ezmlm.org and www.ezmlm.org on both boxes is
> at the end of this message, just incase that's of any help.  I notice
> that the formatting is slightly different - but that's probably
> because of different versions of dig installed on the two boxes.
>
> The config I'm using is a slightly modified version of Rob Thomas'
> Secure BIND template
> (http://www.enteract.com/~robt/Docs/Articles/secure-bind-template.html
> ) - I'll not put all of it here, but here's the options section
> (which may, or may not, be of any relevance whatsoever):
>
> options { directory "/var/named";
>           pid-file "/var/named/named.pid";
>           statistics-file "/var/named/named.stats";
>           memstatistics-file "/var/named/named.memstats";
>           dump-file "/var/adm/named.dump";
>           zone-statistics yes;
>           // Make zone transfer more efficient by sending multiple
>           // DNS records in a single DNS message.
>           transfer-format many-answers;
>           // Set max zone transfer time to 60 minutes.
>           max-transfer-time-in 60;
>           allow-transfer { xfer; };
>           allow-query { trusted; };
>           blackhole { bogon; };
>         };
>
> There's no obvious error messages that I can see in the logs which
> are currently set to "debug" severity level.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what might be going on?  Or any pointers as
> to how I could further investigate the problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve.
>
> Dig output follows:
>
> Local:
> ~~~~~~
> [user at box etc]# dig ezmlm.org
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> ezmlm.org
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 39069
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;ezmlm.org.                     IN      A
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> ezmlm.org.              3075    IN      CNAME   gd.tuwien.ac.at.
> gd.tuwien.ac.at.        85875   IN      A       192.35.244.50
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> tuwien.ac.at.           85875   IN      NS      tunamed.tuwien.ac.at.
> tuwien.ac.at.           85875   IN      NS      tunamec.tuwien.ac.at.
>
> ;; Query time: 9 msec
> ;; SERVER: 10.0.1.1#53(10.0.1.1)
> ;; WHEN: Thu Feb 14 18:06:19 2002
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 116
>
> [user at box etc]# dig www.ezmlm.org
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> www.ezmlm.org
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 27260
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.ezmlm.org.                 IN      A
>
> ;; Query time: 226 msec
> ;; SERVER: 10.0.1.1#53(10.0.1.1)
> ;; WHEN: Thu Feb 14 18:06:25 2002
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 31
>
> - From other shell box:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> box2% dig ezmlm.org
>
> ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> ezmlm.org
> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> ;; got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
> ;; QUERY SECTION:
> ;;      ezmlm.org, type = A, class = IN
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> ezmlm.org.              50m35s IN CNAME  gd.tuwien.ac.at.
> gd.tuwien.ac.at.        23h50m35s IN A  192.35.244.50
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> tuwien.ac.at.           3d23h50m35s IN NS  tunamed.tuwien.ac.at.
> tuwien.ac.at.           3d23h50m35s IN NS  tunamec.tuwien.ac.at.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> tunamed.tuwien.ac.at.   20h9m28s IN A   192.35.241.71
> tunamec.tuwien.ac.at.   20h9m28s IN A   192.35.241.70
>
> ;; Total query time: 1 msec
> ;; FROM: obfuscated.server to SERVER: default -- xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> ;; WHEN: Thu Feb 14 17:57:22 2002
> ;; MSG SIZE  sent: 27  rcvd: 148
>
> box2% dig www.ezmlm.org
>
> ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> www.ezmlm.org
> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> ;; got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
> ;; QUERY SECTION:
> ;;      www.ezmlm.org, type = A, class = IN
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.ezmlm.org.          50m36s IN CNAME  gd.tuwien.ac.at.
> gd.tuwien.ac.at.        23h50m31s IN A  192.35.244.50
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> tuwien.ac.at.           3d23h50m31s IN NS  tunamed.tuwien.ac.at.
> tuwien.ac.at.           3d23h50m31s IN NS  tunamec.tuwien.ac.at.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> tunamed.tuwien.ac.at.   20h9m24s IN A   192.35.241.71
> tunamec.tuwien.ac.at.   20h9m24s IN A   192.35.241.70
>
> ;; Total query time: 1 msec
> ;; FROM: obfuscated.server to SERVER: default -- xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> ;; WHEN: Thu Feb 14 17:57:26 2002
> ;; MSG SIZE  sent: 31  rcvd: 152
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