can find host name

Alaa Alamood aaa at netman.dk
Mon Feb 11 15:19:26 UTC 2002


the following is the logs when I restart named, with new serial number, 
and I still have the problem


Feb 11 16:17:22 cluster1 named[872596]: source file of dynamic zone 
'netman.dk' has changed
Feb 11 16:17:22 cluster1 named[872596]: master zone "netman.dk" (IN) 
loaded (serial 2002021102)
Feb 11 16:17:22 cluster1 named[872596]: Ready to answer queries.
sanjay wrote:

> so, did you change the IP address on 193.88.72.6 DNS. it is still 
> showing 193.88.72.46 only. see whether you have increased the serial 
> number of that zone.
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> sanjay
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> [root at cluster2 /root]# nslookup cluster1.netman.dk 193.88.72.6
> Server:  teapot.netman.dk
> Address:  193.88.72.6
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> Name:    cluster1.netman.dk
> Addresses:  193.88.72.46, 172.16.0.7
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>     ----- Original Message -----
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>     From:Alaa Alamood <mailto:aaa at netman.dk>
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>     To: sanjay <mailto:indianlinuxuser at yahoo.com>
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>     Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 7:04 PM
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>     Subject: Re: can find host name
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>     193.88.72.6
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>     sanjay wrote:
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>>     tell me the ip address of your name server.
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>>      
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>>     sanjay
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>>         ----- Original Message -----
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>>         From:Alaa Alamood <mailto:aaa at netman.dk>
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>>         To: sanjay <mailto:indianlinuxuser at yahoo.com>
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>>         Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 6:28 PM
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>>         Subject: Re: can find host name
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>>         Ja, but that's what I have done I change the ip address in my
>>         zone I can see the new ip address just in my dnsserver but on
>>         the other machine can you see it as the old ip address
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>>         sanjay wrote:
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>>>         You  need to change the IP address in your zone file.
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>>>          
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>>>         sanjay
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>>>          
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>>>          
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>>>          
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>>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>             From:Alaa Alamood <mailto:aaa at netman.dk>
>>>
>>>             To: sanjay <mailto:indianlinuxuser at yahoo.com>
>>>
>>>             Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:26 PM
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>>>             Subject: Re: can find host name
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>>>
>>>             Hi
>>>
>>>             my domain is netman.dk.
>>>             now for e.g I change one of the machine ip address from
>>>             193.88.72.46  and hostname cluster1 to 193.88.72.47 and
>>>             hosthame cluster1 and restart the named if you try to
>>>             look at cluster1.netman.dk you will get 193.88.72.46
>>>             instead of 193.88.72.47
>>>
>>>             regards
>>>             Alaa
>>>
>>>
>>>             sanjay wrote:
>>>
>>>>can u give me the domain name that you have added so that I can test it.
>>>>
>>>>sanjay
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Alaa Alamood" <aaa at netman.dk>
>>>>Newsgroups: comp.protocols.dns.bind
>>>>To: <phn at icke-reklam.ipsec.nu>
>>>>Cc: <comp-protocols-dns-bind at moderators.isc.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 4:54 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: can find host name
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have done the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>I change the TTL  to 86400 which is more higher than the previews one
>>>>>
>>>>>2- I remove the dkuug.dk, which is not use any more.
>>>>>
>>>>>I mean by "I ask another client", the machine that is a clint to my
>>>>>
>>>>dnsserver, any way I still have the update problem, which is when I edit the
>>>>/etc/namedb/zone.netman.dk and the "/etc/namedb/db.172.16.0" and add a
>>>>hostname to thos files and restart the named, I can lookup for the new added
>>>>hostname just on my dnssever, but when I login on another mchine on my
>>>>network, and try to lookup "using nslookup or dig" to the new added machine,
>>>>still can't get answer from the dnsserver
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>phn at icke-reklam.ipsec.nu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Alaa Alamood <aaa at netman.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks Again for your responedding
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>phn at icke-reklam.ipsec.nu wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Alaa Alamood <aaa at netman.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thanks for answer my
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>what do you mean by  server / domain, in your quastion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You did not tell us the _real_ name of the domain and the address of
>>>>>>>>the server , thus we cannot make our own measurements.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>my domain name is: netman.dk
>>>>>>>and the ip is: 193.88.72.6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>One of the servers, dkuug.dk (195.215.30.66) is Lame ( not configured as
>>>>>>slave )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You  also use rediculasly short TTL's which may cause caches to
>>>>>>loose information early. These days with notify makes short "general" TTL
>>>>>>unneeded.
>>>>>>See RIPE-recommendations for "suitable TTL"
>>>>>>
>>>>>I change the TTL  to 86400
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Your observations, if i remember right, was that when you ask
>>>>>>>>your nameserver it will answer correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>that's right
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But when you ask a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>when I ask another client that have my master server as a domain name
>>>>>>>server, the following is an example
>>>>>>>of resolv.conf file in one of my clients.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>/etc/resolv.conf
>>>>>>>domain netman.dk
>>>>>>>nameserver    193.88.72.6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>it would not found the hostname that I register in my DNS server
>>>>>>>"193.88.72.6".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"I ask another client" ?? You mean you try in this client or do you mean
>>>>>>that you direct the question to this client ? ( if there is no nameserver
>>>>>>running on this client it _will_ be refused)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, nslookup is dead. Just bury it somwhere where noone will use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Use proper tools, like dig host doc dnswalk zonecheck dns-expert etc.
>>>>>>Example with dig shows :
>>>>>>(question is "who does reverse for 193.88.72 " :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>dig 72.88.193.in-addr.arpa ns
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> 72.88.193.in-addr.arpa ns
>>>>>>;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
>>>>>>;; got answer:
>>>>>>;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
>>>>>>;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 2
>>>>>>;; QUERY SECTION:
>>>>>>;;      72.88.193.in-addr.arpa, type = NS, class = IN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>>>>>72.88.193.in-addr.arpa.  23h48m IN NS  dkuug.dk.
>>>>>>72.88.193.in-addr.arpa.  23h48m IN NS  teapot.netman.dk.
>>>>>>72.88.193.in-addr.arpa.  23h48m IN NS  tinderbox.netman.dk.
>>>>>>72.88.193.in-addr.arpa.  23h48m IN NS  ns.dknet.dk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
>>>>>>ns.dknet.dk.            23h47m50s IN A  193.88.44.42
>>>>>>dkuug.dk.               23h47m40s IN A  195.215.30.66
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Again, dkuug.dk answers Lame ( not authorative ) :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>dig 72.88.193.in-addr.arpa ns @dkuug.dk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> 72.88.193.in-addr.arpa ns @dkuug.dk.
>>>>>>; (1 server found)
>>>>>>;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
>>>>>>;; got answer:
>>>>>>;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
>>>>>>;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 4
>>>>>>;; QUERY SECTION:
>>>>>>;;      72.88.193.in-addr.arpa, type = NS, class = IN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Which suggest that you either fix dkuug or remove from
>>>>>>delegation records.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Alaa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>random nameserver "out there" your recent additions ar'nt there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>One way this might happen is of let's say dk. nameservers delegates
>>>>>>>>this zone to other nameservers then yours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Again, it's only a guess.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Peter h
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm going to try to describe the problem in more details
>>>>>>>>>I have master domain server, that have the following named.conf
>>>>>>>>>options {
>>>>>>>>>      directory  "/etc/namedb/";
>>>>>>>>>      query-source address * port 53;
>>>>>>>>>};
>>>>>>>>>zone  "." {
>>>>>>>>>      type  hint;
>>>>>>>>>      file  "named.ca";
>>>>>>>>>};
>>>>>>>>>zone  "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" {
>>>>>>>>>      type  master;
>>>>>>>>>      file  "named.local";
>>>>>>>>>};
>>>>>>>>>zone  "domain.dk" {
>>>>>>>>>      type  master;
>>>>>>>>>      file  "db.domain.dk";
>>>>>>>>>      allow-update {
>>>>>>>>>          key netmanDnsKey;
>>>>>>>>>      };
>>>>>>>>>};
>>>>>>>>>zone  "0.16.172.in-addr.arpa" {
>>>>>>>>>      type  master;
>>>>>>>>>      file  "db.172.16.0";
>>>>>>>>>      allow-update {
>>>>>>>>>       key netmanDnsKey;
>>>>>>>>>      };
>>>>>>>>>};
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>when I try to make nslookup to a client register in my master domain
>>>>>>>>>server as the following:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>192.168.1.1>  nslookup prince.domain.com
>>>>>>>>>Server:         192.168.1.1
>>>>>>>>>Address:        192.168.1.1#53
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Non-au
>>>>>>>>>thor
>>>>>>>>>itat
>>>>>>>>>ive answer:
>>>>>>>>>Name:   prince.domain.com
>>>>>>>>>Address: 172.16.0.16
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>when Im try from another machine
>>>>>>>>>Client> nslookup prince.domain.com
>>>>>>>>>Server:    dnsmasterserver.domain.com
>>>>>>>>>Address:  192.168.1.1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>*** dnsmasterserver.domain.com can't find prince: Non-existent
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>host/domain
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>please tall me if you need more information?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>phn at icke-reklam.ipsec.nu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Alaa Alamood <aaa at netman.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>phn at icke-reklam.ipsec.nu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Alaa Alamood <aaa at netman.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>When I try to add host name to the DNS databaser, I can see the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>host
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>name just on the DNS server but not on the others machines. does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>any one
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>have idea what going on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm running named  version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>8.2.2-P5-plus-CA-2000-20-plus-CA-2001-02
>>>>
>>>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>orginally come from compaq on tru64unix version 5.1a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Seems to be a candidate to update. nothing named like this have
>>>>>>>>>>>>come out from the original mfg. 8.2.2 however is known to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>malfunctioning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What hostname/domain are you talking about ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>the machine that I register on DNS server, I can see it when I make
>>>>>>>>>>>nslookup on the same DNS server, but I can not see it when I make
>>>>>>>>>>>nslookup on the other machine but the server
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Well, you still have not told us what domain / server it is about.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>As you describe it it sound like a bad delegation from the parent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>regards
>>>>>>>>>>>Alaa
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alaa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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