DNS debate

Will Yardley william+dns at hq.newdream.net
Wed Aug 22 22:45:18 UTC 2001


Barry Margolin wrote:
> What do you mean by "the registrar"?  If there are two registrars with host
> entries for the same name, which one is *the* registrar?
> 
> Do you mean the registrar that registered the domain that the hostname is
> in?

sorry - yes that's my understanding.  the registrar of the domain that
the host is in sends the glue records; registrars of the actual domains
just give the root servers the hostname of the nameserver and they get
the IP address from the actual record for the host.

that's what i've been told anyway, and i think that if this were not the
case we'd have a number of customers with big problems.

i think that the ip address mentioned when you do a whois lookup is for
convenience; some registrars (like corenic) don't include them at all.

i haven't been able to find a really great example, but here's an ok
one.  note how register.com has the same ip address for BOTH nameservers
in their whois database, but the root servers still have the right info.

jazz% dig @e.gtld-servers.net oscarsalazar.com

; <<>> DiG 9.2.0rc1 <<>> @e.gtld-servers.net oscarsalazar.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 38727
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;oscarsalazar.com.              IN      A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
oscarsalazar.com.       172800  IN      NS      NS.NEWDREAM.NET.
oscarsalazar.com.       172800  IN      NS      NS2.NEWDREAM.NET.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
NS.NEWDREAM.NET.        172800  IN      A       207.155.127.155
NS2.NEWDREAM.NET.       172800  IN      A       216.240.131.131

jazz% whois !$
whois oscarsalazar.com

<snip>

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NS.NEWDREAM.NET                                   207.155.127.155   
   NS2.NEWDREAM.NET                                  207.155.127.155   

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com

jazz% whois -h whois.networksolutions.com "HOST ns2.newdream.net"             ~
<snip>
   Hostname: NS2.NEWDREAM.NET
   Address: 216.240.131.131
   System: ? running ?

   Coordinator:
      Bethune, Dallas  (DB2061)  dallas at DREAMHOST.COM
      New Dream Network
      PO Box 5479
      Huntington Park, CA 90255
      +1 323 583 7991 (FAX) +1 323 583 9505

   Record last updated on 30-Aug-2000.
   Database last updated on 22-Aug-2001 07:21:00 EDT.

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