DENIC and SOA numbers?

[Mark.Andrews at nominum.com]

	DENIC have overstepped the mark here.   All those counter
	values were reasonable.

		refresh = 1h
		retry = 20m
		expire = 60d

	There is a big difference between DE and CHRYSLER.COM.
	DE is providing public infrastructure.  DE and its
	subdomains don't have a common corporate relationship.
	CHRYSLER.COM and subdomains do.

	If DENIC want to implement sanity checks then they should be
	sanity checks not arbitary limits which is evidenced from
	the ranges reported.

	Now a DNS hosting company may have want to look at refresh
	and retry values as it impacts their ability to serve all
	their customers.
	
	Mark

> 
> They have every right to regulate the contents of their own subdomains, just 
> as
> I have the right to regulate the contents of chrysler.com subdomains. That's 
> what
> "delegation" means. If you don't like their TLD, pick another one.
> 
> 
> - Kevin
> 
> John Oliver wrote:
> 
> > I just got this email, and am not too happy about it...
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: CSL Hostmaster [mailto:hostmaster at csl-gmbh.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:26 AM
> > > To: Weikel, Duane
> > > Subject: Re: [domreg at nic.de: Re: UPDATE: cyva.de]
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:03:34PM -0400, Weikel, Duane wrote:
> > > >       We submitted a server change request for the domain name of
> > > > 'cyva.de' on the online (internet) form and we have not had a respone f
> rom
> > > > you.  Please change the domain name of 'cyva.de' to be on the following
> > > two
> > > > servers:
> > > >
> > > > Server: ns.connectnet.com
> > > > Address: 207.110.0.60
> > > >
> > > > Server: ns2.connectnet.com
> > > > Address: 207.110.0.128
> > >
> > > DENIC requires a specific range of values for SOA record entries:
> > >
> > > ns.connectnet.com.: SOA value expire (5184000) does not fit in range [604
> 800
> > > ... 3600000].
> > > ns.connectnet.com.: SOA value retry (1200) does not fit in range [1800 ..
> .
> > > 28800].
> > > ns.connectnet.com.: SOA value refresh (3600) does not fit in range [10000
> > > ... 86400].
> > >
> > > And DENIC doesn't allow all NS records for a domain in the same Class C
> > > network
> > > (to avoid a single point of failure).
> > >
> > > So unfortunatlely your update was rejected by DENIC.
> >
> > What business do they have telling me what values to use in my zone
> > files?  I'm not aware of any precedent for this, nor any valid technical
> > reason.  But, not being a guru, I want to ask before I roast them over a
> > slow fire.  Am I correct in believing that this is something that ICANN
> > wouldn't view very favorably?
> >
> > --
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> 
> 
> 
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