More on CNAME problem

Mark.Andrews at nominum.com Mark.Andrews at nominum.com
Thu Sep 28 23:12:12 UTC 2000


> 
> In article <200009280015.e8S0FNu11611 at drugs.dv.isc.org>, 
> Mark.Andrews at nominum.com says...
> >
> >        It's not that they don't like the answer or don't receive the
> >        answer.  They receive it and use it.  What isn't happening is
> >        that the negative answer is not being cached.  See RFC 2308.
> >        The MX record however is being cached which is why there are
> >        far fewer queries for the MX record.
> >
> >        Mark
> ****************** REPLY SEPARATER ***************
> OK, here are 2 more examples that happened just yesterday. Both occurred with
>  
> "MX" record requests. Our server is responding, but the other server is eithe
> r 
> not getting the response or is ignoring it! When will someone admit that this
>  
> is not right?

	You have been told that this is a perfectly normal query
	trace from a site without a nameserver that supports negative
	caching attemting to send email to you.

	If it bothers you write to them and ask them to install a
	nameserver which supports negative caching.

	Mark
 
> 
> J.A. Coutts
> Systems Engineer
> Edsonet/TravPro
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for CNAME-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about CNAME-record for 
> yellowhead.com.:
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: There are no CNAME-Records for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   -> Authority: SOA-record for yellowhead.com. = 
> server1.yellowhead.com. (Serial 2000031302)
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> :
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 10:17:45   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> :
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 10:17:45   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> :
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 10:17:45   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> :
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 10:17:45   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 10:17:45   Sending reply to 199.117.52.11 about MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> :
> 10:17:45   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 10:17:45   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 10:17:45   IP address 199.117.52.11 blocked (more than 20 Requests per second
> )
> 10:17:45   Request from 199.117.52.11 on Block list. Ignored!
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 for MX-record for yellowhead.com.
> 14:24:20   Sending reply to 141.202.248.31 about MX-record for yellowhead.com
> .:
> 14:24:20   -> Answer: MX-record for yellowhead.com. = mail.yellowhead.com. 
> (Preference 100)
> 14:24:20   -> Additional: A-record for mail.yellowhead.com. = 207.34.82.5
> 14:24:20   IP address 141.202.248.31 blocked (more than 20 Requests per secon
> d)
> 14:24:20   Request from 141.202.248.31 on Block list. Ignored!
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
--
Mark Andrews, Nominum Inc.
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: Mark.Andrews at nominum.com



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