Question about visibility

[Sten Carlsen]

Please see below.

On 11/10/2018 18.13, Hardy, Andrew wrote:
> Ok I'm a bit confused.  I have some questions re last post, copied below:
>
> I have done this some time ago, I made sure that there was no link
> from any pages to the new site, 
> ** So the new site (in development) would have no domain name mapped
> in DNS, so it seems unlikely that other sites and pages would have
> links to http://x.x.x.x unless the developer put it there.
Actually I had DNS for this.
>
> Google stayed away until somebody typed the address
> ** You mean typed the IP address? You mean in an actual Google search
> string?
Something in a search string, if this has the address visits from the
bots are next to come. My experience for this and some other cases.
>
>  into the search field, then it was known.
> ** So typing the host IP address as a Google search string would
> (ultimately) in time lead to a Google search string, that could be
> found on the sites web pages, listing pages from the site?
This is my experience. I did this when I wanted the site to be known to
the world.
>
> This is no guarantee of course as mentioned in other place but it
> worked for about 6 months.
> ** Ok, so even if you don't formally register / index (or what ever it
> is) your site on Google, if you use it's IP in a search string, given
> time it could show up in searches using text that's on its pages?
Time in this case is days or less.

There are also bots that search random IP addresses for content, the
only way to keep those away that I know of is to have a welcome page in
http://xx.xx/index.html and using e.g.
http://xx.xx/test/mynewsite/index.html for my test site.
Bots will find the welcome page and if that does not have a link to my
mynewsite, they do not know that there is something to look at.
This has worked for me as well for quite some time, again if it hits a
search in any search engine, you're done.
>
>
> Just to say thank you so much for people commenting.  I do appreciate
> you taking the time.
You're welcome.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 14:50 Sten Carlsen <stenc at s-carlsen.dk
> <mailto:stenc at s-carlsen.dk>> wrote:
>
>     I have done this some time ago, I made sure that there was no link
>     from any pages to the new site, Google stayed away until somebody
>     typed the address into the search field, then it was known.
>
>     This is no guarantee of course as mentioned in other place but it
>     worked for about 6 months.
>
>     On 11/10/2018 13.26, Admin Hardy wrote:
>>
>>     I realise this is not specifically a BIND/DNS question and a bit
>>     off topic so please ignore if need be I realise people are often
>>     very busy.
>>
>>     If you you have a website but the host IP you do not list with
>>     any domain name in DNS, is it definite that this site could never
>>     be reached via Google.  I do not really know the nuts and bolts
>>     of how Google gets access to pages.
>>
>>     If for 'some particular reason' instead of developing a site on a
>>     local dev machine on your LAN and then uploading/installing the
>>     site to a remote server, you needed 'for what ever reason' to do
>>     the development and testing on the final live host accessing it
>>     via the ip address, would this be a way to be 'almost certain' of
>>     keeping it hidden from unwanted accidental exposure?
>>
>>     Thanks.
>>
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