How to create a fake root server?

Kevin Darcy kcd at chrysler.com
Thu Mar 13 20:52:51 UTC 2014


Either set up a *root* zone, with a delegation to your TLD, and those 
other nameservers will be configured with "hints" files

or

You'll have to use some other mechanism -- e.g. slave, stub -- on those 
nameservers, so that they know how to resolve names in your TLD.

                 - Kevin

On 3/13/2014 4:28 PM, Peter wrote:
> I finally managed to configure a TLD DNS server which will answer, in 
> its own CLI, with proper IP:s for added domains. The problem is that 
> it doesn't reply to the other querying Domain DNS servers when they 
> are asking for domain lookups to it. I can only do lookups inside the 
> TLD DNS server.
>
> The TLD server settings:
>
> named.conf
> -----------------------------------------------
> options {
>         directory "/var/cache/bind";
>
>         // forwarders {
>         //      0.0.0.0;
>         // };
>
>         dnssec-validation auto;
>
>         auth-nxdomain no;    # conform to RFC1035
>         listen-on-v6 { any; };
>         allow-query { any; };
>         recursion yes;
> };
> zone "loc" {
>         type master;
>         file "/etc/bind/pri.loc";
> };
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> pri.loc
> -----------------------------------------------
> $ORIGIN .
> $TTL 7200       ; 2 hours
> loc         IN      SOA     ns1.intranet admin.intranet.loc (
>                                 2       ; serial
>                                 7200       ; refresh (2 hours)
>                                 1800       ; retry (30 minutes)
>                                 7200       ; expire (2 hours)
>                                 7200       ; minimum (2 hours)
>                                 )
>                         NS      ns1.intranet
> $ORIGIN loc.
> domain1                  A       172.16.0.121
> domain2            A       172.16.0.122
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> TLD Server# ping domain1.loc
> PING domain1.loc (172.16.0.121) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 172.16.0.121: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.196 ms
> 64 bytes from 172.16.0.121: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.160 ms
> 64 bytes from 172.16.0.121: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.177 ms
> ----
> TLD Server# ping domain2.loc
> PING domain2.loc (172.16.0.121) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 172.16.0.121: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.193 ms
> 64 bytes from 172.16.0.121: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.168 ms
> 64 bytes from 172.16.0.121: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.172 ms
> ----
> Domain Server1# ping domain2.loc
> ping: unknown host domain2.loc
> ----
> Domain Server2# ping domain1.loc
> ping: unknown host domain2.loc
> ----
>
> On both Domain DNS servers, I have made forwards with the IP of the 
> TLD server. But they simply will not receive any lookup answers. They 
> have also been configured with 127.0.0.1 in the resolv.conf file, 
> which means they will use their own internal DNS server for lookups. 
> All servers are on the same 172.16.0.x network.
>
> What am I doing wrong here?
>
> Sincerely, Peter
>
>
> On 13/03/14 11:10, Mark Andrews wrote:
>> In message <53216B43.8040200 at gmail.com>, Peter writes:
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply. It's just for a closed internal network with no
>>> access to the rest of the internet. Making labs such as testing ISP
>>> functions and services, mail servers etc. Everything is running inside
>>> an VMware host with an internal closed network.
>>>
>>> I have created a closed "Internet" on 172.16.x.x where I would like to
>>> put up a root server for .loc, where several other ISP-DNS servers, 
>>> with
>>> domains, are referred to. I've managed to create those "ISP-DNS" 
>>> servers
>>> which works fine. But I'm having trouble to create the root DNS server
>>> with Bind. I haven't found any useful examples at the web yet.
>> Perhaps because a root zone is like any other zone.  It has a SOA
>> record and NS records at the apex and other records.
>>
>> . 3600 SOA server.example.net. hostmaster.example.net. 1 3600 1200 
>> 2419200 3600
>> . 3600 NS server.example.net.
>> . 3600 NS another.example.net.
>> server.example.net. 3600 A 1.2.3.4
>> another.example.net. 3600 A 1.2.3.5
>>
>>> It's for a school project.
>>>
>>> Regards, Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/03/14 19:56, Kevin Darcy wrote:
>>>> First of all, don't use .loc as an internal TLD. There are *many*
>>>> proposals in process with ICANN for establishing new TLDs, and for all
>>>> you know, .loc might be one of them. If .loc gets established on the
>>>> Internet, and you're using it internally, that presents abundant
>>>> opportunities for confusion and failure.
>>>>
>>>> Use a publically-registered domain, a descendant of a
>>>> publically-registered domain, or potentially, one of the reserved TLDs
>>>> in RFC 6761.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what your question is, exactly. Set up the root zone,
>>>> slave it, publish 2 or more of the master/slaves in the NS records,
>>>> delegate whatever TLD you're going to use, set up *that* zone, lather,
>>>> rinse, repeat, for the entire hierarchy. Anyone who reads
>>>> _DNS_and_BIND_ should be able to set up an internal-root
>>>> infrastructure, IMO (although, sadly, the later editions don't seem as
>>>> aligned to internal-root as they used to be).
>>>>
>>>>                                          - Kevin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/12/2014 11:07 AM, Peter wrote:
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm doing a virtual internet (internal net) for several VPS's. My
>>>>> goal is to simulate the Internet root servers and the ISP:s domain
>>>>> servers, which are hosting the actual domains. I want to the create
>>>>> several DNS nameservers that will contain the specific domain under
>>>>> the "xxx.loc, yyy.loc, zzz.loc".
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 server for the .loc root
>>>>> 3 servers for xxx.loc (server1), yyy.loc (server2), zzz.loc (server3)
>>>>>
>>>>> Running BIND 9 at every server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions or good links are highly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
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