bad horizontal referral ?
Kevin Darcy
kcd at chrysler.com
Thu Mar 13 22:49:28 UTC 2008
What version of dig are you using? I don't seem to be having a problem:
$ dig tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr @dns1.ac-orleans-tours.fr. +nssearch +trace
SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
dns4.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 121 ms.
SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server dns1.ac-orleans-tours.fr
in 123 ms.
SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 125 ms.
SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server dns1.ac-orleans-tours.fr
in 123 ms.
SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 164 ms.
SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
dns4.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 164 ms.
SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server dns1.ac-orleans-tours.fr
in 122 ms.
SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
dns4.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 123 ms.
SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 123 ms.
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- Kevin
Jean-François Leroux wrote:
> Oh, sorry, both of you. I had misunderstood the question. Thanks for
> offering help :-)
>
> Here it is : tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr
>
> 2008/3/13, Kevin Darcy <kcd at chrysler.com>:
>
>> Examples work perfectly, assuming they're constructed properly.
>>
>> If you want help on a real zone, you'll need to give the real zone name,
>> not an example name.
>>
>> FYI, myzone.com is delegated to ns1.netnation.com and ns2.netnation.com,
>> neither of which appear to be giving horizontal referrals.
>>
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>>
>> - Kevin
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>> Jean-François Leroux wrote:
>> > The zone, in my example, is called myzone.com. Private zone is
>> > private.myzone.com.
>> >
>> > 2008/3/13, Barry Margolin <barmar at alum.mit.edu>:
>> >
>> >> In article <fr96i6$1bt6$1 at sf1.isc.org>,
>> >>
>> >> "Jean-Francois Leroux" <leroux.jeanfrancois at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Ok, I understand. Thanks for the explanation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, here's my problem. I have two dns servers in a public zone (which
>> >> > I'm testing), and when I issue a dig myzone.com @myserver1.myzone.com
>> >> > (or myserver2) +nsserach +trace, I always get this message. Could it
>> >> > be that there's a problem with my setup? As far as I understand bind,
>> >> > it should be ok, the second one being slave of the first one. They're
>> >> > on the same level though, since both are slaves of a single master in
>> >> > the private zone. Is this a problem?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What's the zone?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2008/3/12, Kevin Darcy <kcd at chrysler.com>:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> Jean-Francois Leroux wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >> > > > Thanks for the explanation, Kevin. If I may ask, what means
>> >> > > > 'horizontal' in the message? I've had a look in my DNS & Bind book but
>> >> > > > couldn't find anything about it...
>> >> > > > And while I'm thinking of it, how can I know which server refers me to
>> >> > > > a wrong address? Is this possible ?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > 2008/3/12, Kevin Darcy <kcd at chrysler.com>:
>> >> > > >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> >> Jean-Francois Leroux wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >> > > >> > Hi,
>> >> > > >> > doing a trace with dig today I got a 'BAD (HORIZONTAL) REFERRAL'
>> >> > > >> > message, with the correct answer though.
>> >> > > >> > What does this mean ?
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Referrals should be "down" not "across". If you're resolving www.foo.com
>> >> > > >> iteratively and along the way a delegated nameserver for foo.com refers
>> >> > > >> you to blah.com, that's a useless referral because it doesn't get you
>> >> > > >> any closer to resolving the name.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Dig probably got the correct answer because it gave up on the broken
>> >> > > >> nameserver and tried a different one.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Horizontal" means at the same level of the hierarchy. The DNS namespace
>> >> > > is often viewed as being tree-like, with the "root" at the top and each
>> >> > > level of subdomain extending downwards. If a referral is "across" rather
>> >> > > than "down", it's "horizontal" instead of "vertical".
>> >> > >
>> >> > > So many prepositions, so little time...
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > - Kevin
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Barry Margolin, barmar at alum.mit.edu
>> >> Arlington, MA
>> >> *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
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