international domain registration issues/dns related

[Barry Margolin]

In article <a2ngib$s9b at pub3.rc.vix.com>,  <sid_shapiro at bio-rad.com> wrote:
>Some of our registrations are being rejected by the various country registrars.
>Frequently we get very little information back from verisign, who they say get
>very little info back the country registrars. Sometimes we get an actual error,
>but more frequently we get something "you nameserver is not set up right". Not
>incredibly helpful. 
>
>I'm having trouble figuring out where to start. I want to verify that the
>nameserver info that I get, is in fact, the same info that they are getting - at
>least I'd have a basis for starting a conversation. But how do I tell what they
>are seeing?

You shouldn't have to.  It seems to me that dealing with all the
ideosyncracies of country registrars (and there are many) is what you're
paying Verisign to do.  Demand that they tell you what's wrong with your 

>If I dig co.nz, I get ns1.dns.net.nz as the nameserver for that domain. If I dig
>my primary domain from them I get nothing for me - just the root servers (dig
>bio-rad.com @ns1.dns.net.nz). Does this mean that they have no information at
>all on us, which would indicate that they don't know my nameservers at all? If
>that's the case, I can see why they would reject our registration - they can't
>find our nameservers.

ns1.dns.net.nz doesn't have recursion enabled, so there's no reason why it
should be able to look up anything outside the .nz domains that it's
authoritative for.

I just queried your primary server, ns1.mis.bio-rad.com, for all the
information it has about bio-rad.co.nz, and this is what I got.  It looks
like you haven't actually set up the domain on your server, since it's a
non-authoritative answer that appears to be coming out of its cache.  I'm
not sure where it even got the answer from, since the domain isn't
delegated anywhere yet (maybe ns1.mis.bio-rad.com is configured with
forwarders, and the server it forwards to has the domain installed on it).

% dig bio-rad.co.nz any @ns1.mis.bio-rad.com +norec

; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> bio-rad.co.nz any @ns1.mis.bio-rad.com +norec 
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8853
;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 5
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;	bio-rad.co.nz, type = ANY, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
bio-rad.co.nz.		0S IN NS	ns1.mis.bio-rad.com.
bio-rad.co.nz.		21h33m28s IN NS  ns1.noc.netcom.net.
bio-rad.co.nz.		21h33m28s IN NS  sol.earthlink.net.
bio-rad.co.nz.		21h33m28s IN NS  luna.earthlink.net.
bio-rad.co.nz.		21h33m28s IN NS  ns2.noc.netcom.net.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
bio-rad.co.nz.		0S IN NS	ns1.mis.bio-rad.com.
bio-rad.co.nz.		21h33m28s IN NS  ns1.noc.netcom.net.
bio-rad.co.nz.		21h33m28s IN NS  sol.earthlink.net.
bio-rad.co.nz.		21h33m28s IN NS  luna.earthlink.net.
bio-rad.co.nz.		21h33m28s IN NS  ns2.noc.netcom.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.mis.bio-rad.com.	0S IN A		198.211.153.71
ns1.noc.netcom.net.	18h53m25s IN A	204.31.1.1
sol.earthlink.net.	6h5m55s IN A	207.69.188.192
luna.earthlink.net.	6h5m55s IN A	207.69.188.193
ns2.noc.netcom.net.	18h53m24s IN A	199.183.9.2

;; Total query time: 337 msec
;; FROM: tools.genuity.com to SERVER: ns1.mis.bio-rad.com  198.211.153.60
;; WHEN: Wed Jan 23 19:09:25 2002
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 31  rcvd: 311

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar at genuity.net
Genuity, Woburn, MA
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